Repost from @technomancy@icosahedron.website
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Stop doing Discord
- capitalists were not supposed to own your community
- Years of hanging out yet no real-world use found for sending your private data to be sold to advertisers
- Wanted to leak private data anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that; it was called “turning off ublock origin”
- “Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it’s not profitable” statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
Look at what discord admins have been demanding your respect for all this time:
- task manager screenshot, discord using 97% of CPU
- discord making too many automated requests and getting throttled
- crash screenshot
“3rd-party client? lifetime ban”
They have played us for absolute fools
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@Fireboy and Watergirl what that mean?
Let’s be real here for a second: Companies are NEVER your friend. NEVER EVER. But if you keep looking for it, you will find something that makes you leave every company behind. You’ll end up in the woods. Some ignorance is needed to live a decent life. You can act if a company gets to a point where it’s too much.
Okay, but on the other hand Discord is basically IRC but worse, and I hate it every time I need to use that stupid site. The fact that its evil is really just rubbing salt in the wound. For me anyway.
On the other hand, I have hated the experience every single time I ever needed to get on to IRC for any reason. And needing to either stay logged in or run my own private always-on bounce server in order to see what overseas friends have been up to while I was asleep? Man, that’s such a bad user experience. :(
That’s fair. It would probably be more precise to say that Discord adds a whole bunch of stuff to IRC, and for my purposes it’s more bad than good, but if you’re trying to use it like a social media platform IRC just doesn’t really work.
But personally, I’ve never looked at IRC and thought “You know what this needs? To be turned into a purple gamer social media site that’s used for tech support for some bizarre reason.” That is just not a thing I need in my life.
I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing an extension to the IRC spec to bring in reasonable discord-like functionality to some servers. It’s time we start moving back to open standards from walled gardens.
how can I join this discord server?
I literally only use discord to voice chat with my friends once a year when we are gaming.
Do people use it for other stuff?
Yes, some developers use Discord to provide technical/product support - this is where the “Yes please search our chat archive for answers to your question. it will certainly remain up forever and not get deleted when the shareholders realize it’s not profitable” comes from. It’s honestly really annoying, since I don’t really want to add yet another Discord server to my existing clutter just to get an answer that may not even be there.
I really only like using Discord as a parallel community, like the Discord guild for Beehaw or the ones I used to be on which were associated with other forums/subreddits/etc. Making it a privileged channel for getting important announcements, support, or other information feels like stretching it beyond what it’s good for, on top of the fact that it’s still corporate and stuff could (and does) happen to it without user input.
Discord is easily accessible text/image and voice chat that just works for the majority. If you want people to switch off it then you’re going to need Matrix to catch up in basic features and accessibility at the very least.
I mean honestly has matrix not caught up? It’s been perfectly usable and honestly more responsive than discord so far. The only real pain point was the most baseline effort that goes into e2e encryption but even then that wasn’t really… difficult?
Does it have voice chat built in and is it as easy to use and accessible as Discord?
Last time I looked this was not the case. No point lecturing people until Matrix or a viable alternative catches up at least.
Yeah it has voice chat, video calls, and screen sharing. I haven’t tested any of them yet personally (soon™) but they are stated features. Element in particular is rolling out video rooms right now, still in beta, which operate identically to voice channels in discord from a UX perspective. So all said not too bad.
I see that it has 8 person voip… but does it have an actual voice chat like Discord?
Voip is a voice chat, so your question doesn’t make much sense. You can voice chat in voice rooms identically to discord, as I said above.
There is no longer an eight person limit on video or voice calls. There is a limit depending on your server.
The best that I could find was that there was an 8 person limit and that it wasn’t as straightforward as Discord at all.
It’s still nice to see them trying and hopefully one day it’ll be a viable alternative to Discord itself.
The best that you could find?
I am personally unconvinced it’s not a viable alternative to dsicord already. But yes it will always be improving and it will be good to see how far it continues to improve.
I don’t see the punch line.
It’s funny in a meta circle jerk kinda way
I can’t remember what Discord did at the time, but there was a decent push to try and move to a different platform. We tried out Guilded, but we had a pretty hard time getting adoption from the users on our Discord server and ended up dropping the transition.
I didn’t think I’d ever say this again, but TeamSpeak 5 is actually looking like it could be the solution we’re looking for. I still need to figure out how I can host a server compatible with version 5 though.
What about element/matrix?
I only just learned about that combination yesterday. Sounds like I should look into it a bit more?
Absolutely, it’s fantastic and I highly recommend it.
I use community.rs if you’re in NA it’s pretty good.
Does Matrix have an equivalent to “servers” on Discord? Like, I can join one and it comes with a bunch of chat rooms owned and moderated by the same community? Because that’s the biggest thing I used Discord for is following and interacting with communities I’m in; and I just fired up Element and I see nothing that hints that it would be possible…
Yes, they’re called spaces.
If you’re on the desktop, they’re the thing on the far left where you see a home icon
Hey, thanks! I’ve now found them!
