• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    I’m pretty sure that the Death Star is just a big expensive toy, and the force doesn’t exist.

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    You forgot to mention Leia is still going to blow up the palestinians rebels, but at least the people in Coruscant will be doing great.

  • Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 days ago

    Leia said she will be a dictator on day one. She will be worsr than Vader. The choice is obvious.

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    7 days ago

    Your options are The Trade Federation or the Old Republic.

    Count Dooku or Senator Palpatine

    And stop asking what happened to all those Younglings. The Trade Federation would kill far more Jedi if they were in power.

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      I know this isn’t the point, but The Trade Federation were a Neimoidian megacorporation that was a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, which Count Dooku founded.

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        Honestly if you took it at face value i.e. Dooku was not Darth Tyranus and actually believed in the CIS cause, it wouldn’t seem like that bad an option.

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      Wasnt dooku a sith? Thus was working for palpatine and the whole war was a plot to undermine the old republic to create an empire that palpatine directly controlled.

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        A big theme of the Prequel Series (and a reason for its insurgent popularity) stems from the strong anti-war themes.

        The Old Republic became the Empire as it was consumed by the mass militarization of its greedy, self-righteous, and power hungry elites.

        The Jedi fell into Palpatine’s trap when they surrounded themselves with Space Cops, foolishly believing endless escalation made them safer.

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          yet you seem to forget that the entire clone war era was a government that had become largely pacifist and demilitarized suddenly needing to deal with racist space turbocapitalists, leaving them scrambling and reliant on Palatine’s indoctrinated space cops to stop the literal corpratist takeover of the galaxy

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            the entire clone war era was a government that had become largely pacifist and demilitarized

            The Jedi were plenty militant as needed. And the drone armies of the Trade Republic were clearly in regular production and use. Then you had the Mandalorian Wars, which had left the Galaxy with a sizeable contingent of heavily armed and armored vagrant mercenaries. And the Outer Rim continued to be a shit-show all through the Republic Era. Hell, the Gungans had (relatively) advanced planetside military.

            I don’t see anything in the Star Wars cannon to suggest the Republic was pacifist. What fueled the Clone War was simply the outward facing private militaries and commandos and space wizard super-soldiers coming back to the imperial core to duke it out on home turf.

            leaving them scrambling and reliant on Palatine’s indoctrinated space cops

            Which were pitted against Dooku’s army of literal killer robots (which Palpatine also helped commission and field).

            “Ah, but if there had just been a third standing army!” doesn’t solve the problem. Because the problem was, at its heart, the endless ratcheting of tensions and the failure of the Jedi (specifically Obi Wan and Anakin) to achieve a ceasefire, acceptable terms for surrender, and a new peace.

            Jedi wouldn’t have been embedded in crowds of space cops to begin with if they hadn’t been trapped in a spiraling expansive endless war that collapsed democratic rule and created the Imperial Galactic State.

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    Why do you support terrorists?

    The Empire has a right to defend itself

    Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields

    The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all

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      The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would’ve died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the rebels weren’t developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Emperor’s right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they’re also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

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    7 days ago

    I know Vader choked the life out of the last person who questioned him, but I haven’t seen Leia do enough challenging media interviews.

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    ‘Princess’ establishment chosen Lyin’ Leiyah is clearly just trying to turn the empire back into the corrupt old Republic and force everyone to accept all aliens including the despicable Gran who don’t deserve rights because they don’t look or act like me. I heard she was even there when Alderaan was destroyed and did nothing.

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    Death Stars don’t kill people. Traitors who won’t give up the location of the secret Rebel base kill people.