• Neato@kbin.social
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    Neither the USSR nor the CCP ever tried to be communist. They used that banner to gather supporters and then seized all control of the government in an authoritarian takeover. Communism doesn’t have “dear leaders” or usually even parties. Places like the USSR used their control over capital and wages and property ownership to control their populace entirely. We’ve never really seen an actual communist country because all the major efforts were sabotaged by people who wanted to be dictators.

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      1 year ago

      Someone knows their political philosophy😉. This is correct and well said.

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      Despite the tankie dislikes you are 100% right and idk about Communism but I definitely believe in democratic socialism!

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    Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression, Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions, and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.

    It worked better than Communism because it works better than Communism. LMFAO

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      Capitalism worked under Eastern aggression

      Right, the countries that invaded the USSR in its nascent years, constantly tried to assassinate leaders of progressive movements, couped most countries on Earth.

      Communist economic sanctions, Communist covert actions

      The projection lol

      and a propaganda apparatus far more widespread than anything from the West.

      As that joke goes, a CIA and KGB officer meet at a bar. The CIA officer says to the KGB officer “You’ve got a good propaganda machine!”, the KGB officer replies “Well, yours is unbeatable.”

      The CIA agent responds with “What propaganda? In the West we don’t have propaganda.”

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        Keep crying, tankie

        Your shitty dictatorships failed because they were orders of magnitude more corrupt and dysfunctional than capitalism, and even more oppressive towards the general public.

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          Dictatorship is when bad country, democratic is when good western country

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          So are you saying Putin is a not shitty dictator? He’s definitely not a communist and he’s still in charge of Russia.

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                They’re both auth dictator scumbags who steal from and oppress the people. Dictators are dictators. Left or right, the only difference is exactly who they want to kill. The Soviets oppressed and occupied Eastern Europe and Putin wants nothing more than to do the same.

                Thankfully, Putin is less capable than Stalin, so Russian fascist rule isn’t as terrible as Soviet communist rule.

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                  So all those price controls under the soviet Union were just them oppressing their citizens?