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I’m always skeptical of the idea that people can’t handle more than one news story at a time.
So NBC wants to point out that there wasn’t much coverage of this issue? Maybe NBC should take some responsibility for not pushing the story harder in the first place?
Also worth noting that there’s no further story to the migrant ship. It sunk and people died. There is no ongoing search.
Sadly its not “new” and is a story we’ve all heard every season for most of our lives. The story isn’t viral because the tragedy. Its viral because how unique the tragedy is.
This is the real answer. Also a tiny sub sinking to the bottom of the ocean possibly with people/civilians still living in it is a lot more unique and captivating situation.
The news covered it and the resources went where all the eyes were. They coast guard and all these people likely had a pretty good idea that they were already dead but they can’t just give up and walk away while the entire world is watching. Instead they have to show what all those tax dollars are for. If 5 migrants ended up sinking to the bottom of the ocean in a submarine in the same situation I think it still would have had the same response.
However, if you put 500 Billionaires on a boat and it sank, we would throw a party.
Right? I watched one youtube video about this sub, and now I’m getting flooded by recommendations about the same story. Most of them are NBC clips.
As long as the Capitalist market controls the vast majority of the news then this will ALWAYS be the case. Capitalism is by default self serving. So it’s in their best interest to get the world concerned about some billionaires stuck in a tin can submarine somewhere in the ocean, over hundreds of refugees drowning.
Yeah it seems pretty ridiculous for a new network that’s been pushing coverage of the Titan to complain about this. Why not just cover the other story, then?
I doubt the person who wrote this article gets that much say in which stories NBC publishes
Reminds me, there was an article on the hill which blamed messaging from the scientific community to rising sea levels:
Maybe if the media and journalists didn’t waste the last 30 years engaging in “is climate change real” and both-sideism. But apparently it’s the entire scientific community’s fault that they didn’t word it any better. Definitely not the publications’ fault.
Well obviously some human lives are more important than others /s
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I think the women and children were below deck for protection against the elements, not to increase the chance of men surviving. On top of that, men are also more likely to know how to swim than women and children.
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Compared to story about yet another ship carrying illegals that deliberately sank, it is not that often that you hear about a “homemade” submarine that disappeared somewhere near the Titanic. And, in this case, it is/was a race against time to try and find the submarine, therefore we see frequent updates in the news.
Understandable that a race against the clock (that I think they’ve most definitely lost) makes for more novel news, so I’m not surprised that it got more coverage. It’s also very fair to be angry that five billionaires on a pleasure trip are visibly more important than 400+ poor. “llegal” people are still people and they suffered and died the same in an effort to live safely, which literally everyone wants.
There’s nothing in this article or others I found that suggests it was deliberate, either. It seems to have been an accidental capsize.
Yeah but one of those was good news and the other one was a tragedy that killed hundreds.
And good news are worth spreading while to tragedies one pays respect. Anyway, it’s a shame that level of disparity in assigned resources.
Nah, it’s a shame that you have to commit atrocities towards your fellow man to accrue that wealth and there’s rarely any justice over it. I’m not going to be shamed for celebrating when justice is doled out.
Nobody should cry for Hitler either.
Me neither, my point is that this (small?) redistribution of wealth is the good news (and worth celebrating!).
Yeah the issue is that there won’t be a redistribution of wealth. Just rich kids inheriting wealth built on exploitation, and they will be one step further divorced from interacting with the actual working class.
And the cycle continues.
It’s easy to see this as a parallel to the value our society places on human lives of different societal classes and nationalities. But I also think the sub story has so much traction because it’s an ongoing story with a fight against the clock, where there’s a, however small, glimmer of hope.
The boys stuck in the cave in Thailand a while ago weren’t overlooked either.
Maybe it’s human nature that more unusual peril gets more attention.
There’s also the massive scandal over the fact that the submarine was not safe at all and should never have been used for manned missions, making it something of a leopards at my face moment. This has made it emminently memeable, so people are talking about it even more.
A boat sinking on its way to Libya is definitely more tragic, but also not nearly as unusual or attention grabbing. No sane person is about to make memes about a few hundred dead migrants.
Capitalism is for the rich
My coworkers are talking about the submersible and not about the boat.
BUT
They are talking about the submersible in a fun way, they are laughing at a bunch of people dying because they are rich. All of them know that the Mediterranean Sea is full of corpses, one more boat or not.
Capitalism want to sell news for clicks, and african people dying in the sea isn’t something new sadly.
One is a tale of hubris with pretty well defined details. The other is a gross mass tragedy with political undertones and cultural nuance that is hard to parse for normie news audiences.
An article about how “this tragedy was ignored” isn’t a good look when you’re the pricks writing the fuckin articles what ignored the tragedies.
Even now, the submarine story is at the top of NBCs webpage. They want it both ways.
I think it’s fine for this particular journalist to bring attention to it, even if it reveals the outlet’s ongoing bias.
I think that is because the sub incident had potential to have a happy ending…for at least 5 seconds. Also it is linked to a popular tragedy. Whereas the people dying on migration and human trafficing are inherently horrible and its just depressing to read about it.
I think that is because the sub incident had potential to have a happy ending…for at least 5 seconds.
You realise had the same time and effort been used to rescue the people from this incident, many more lives could have been saved right?
Surprise! Awful shit happens every day and you don’t hear about even 2% of it.
Lately it seems like we’re only hearing about the 1%
From where I’m sitting, it looks like these mass drownings are to the EU what mass shootings are here in the US: an issue that the people and politicians pretend to give a crap about, and then do absolutely nothing about, so it keeps happening over and over again.
People going missing in the Mediterranean is old news. That one guy did it for like 20 years.
Rich men playing stupid games and winning stupid prices. I don’t understand why they’re getting so much coverage.
I understand.
Migrants drowning isn’t entertainment unless you’re a sociopath.
Millionaires and Billionaires slowly suffocating in a little tube at the bottom of the ocean because they wanted to spend their money on something pointlessly dangerous just for bragging rights?
Make some popcorn.
News as news doesn’t sell advertising dollars. If all you want is information about what’s happening in the world, we used to get that in 1 or 2 hours a night. Back then they’d only need to go back to the story if there was new information.
Now there are organizations dedicated to spewing “news” 24x7. That’s not news, that’s entertainment. Once it becomes entertainment, it’s not about the information, it’s just about keeping the focus on what keeps eyeballs glued to the screen. Right now, that’s dying rich people.
Hell, I doubt there is ever a time when the majority of people on earth don’t want to watch rich people suffer and die.
This is like Steve Bannon level of edgelord opinion
Steve should have been in that sub along with our other “elites”
Oh awesome rich people suffocating?! Sum aint right with your take. I think its mainly because fucking everyone knows titanic and recognize the deja vu of this incident
Because that’s more interesting 🤔?
Because lionardo dicaprio
Rich people gonna rich.
For what we have spent on the search for 5 people we could have re-homed all 500 refugees on the ship off of Greece.
I’m just waiting for someone to point out that if we were to save and rehome the refugees, it will just encourage others to take unnecessary risks. Because I’m going to point to the multi-country, $10M/day search effort and ask whether or not Billionaires expect to get bailed out if they take unnecessary risks.
Imagine how many yachts those billionaires on the Titan own. Imagine how many people you could save from capsizing and drowning with those.
I’m not sure about who this article is criticizing exactly. It’s not like we don’t know about the sunken boat - we do. It’s just not as interesting as a lost submarine.
If there was a kid lost in the atlantic on a inflatable unicorn nobody would be talking about the submarine. That’s how our attention works. 5 people is more interesting that 200 people and 1 person is more interesting than five.
5 billionaires go missing. 5 nation’s coast guards jump at the chance to save them. How many of the 500 would be saved if they had not gone looking for dead men? Could it be said that 505 people are dead because some rich asshole wanted to play James Cameron?
It’s not just people missing. It’s the efforts of the various organisations around the world that have put huge amounts of effort into finding them when they could’ve saved a lot more (hell 1 more is a lot more) had they focused on larger disasters.
But because the victims are Arabs and refugees, nobody cares.
For me it’s a lot less about the number of people, and much more about the circumstances of the story. Boats have been capsized for as long as history itself, but when was the last time a submarine went missing? And then all of the shady details about the CEO and the company’s ignorance to safety are rather interesting to hear about as well.
They’re a parasite on society. I don’t know why people care so much. In contrast, it’s really tragic in every way that the migrant ship had to even exist.
While I generally agree, I think people are getting too hung up on the fact that the missing crew are all wealthy - that’s not really the point.
It’s a fascinating story because we are dealing with a potential (albeit at this stage incredibly unlikely) deep-sea rescue of the sort that has never been attempted before, at depths that only a handful of craft are capable of even reaching, and we know that time is quickly running out.
Then you have the angle that the company that runs the expeditions is alleged to have ignored early safety warnings about the vessel’s ability to reach the extreme depths as advertized, combined with the CEO’s application of the “move fast and break things” technocratic mentality to deep sea exploration.
Even if the occupants of the submersible were regular joes, or even (at the risk of sounding crass) refugees, it would still be a attention-grabbing news item.
There is some sense of, I feel like justice isn’t the right word, irony? that the pilot is the founder and CEO. Since his mentality may be the reason for his demise.
Sucks that 4 others are likely to lose their lives too, but they ultimately signed the waiver and assumed the risk. Just a crazy and tragic situation.
Coming from reddit you really had me in the first half, I felt my blood pressure rising dramatically until the last sentence.
