• Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This was the same promise in 2020. And yet here we are. Democrats should have done better than beg to save democracy one more time.

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      Preserving democracy was never going to be a single-step solution process. It takes consistent, persistent work to not only expand, but to just maintain our liberty for all. It’s a tower defense strategy game.

      At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a lady asked Benjamin Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.” This existential threat has always been there and it’s something to always be wary of. It’s exhausting, but it’s worth it. Freedom ain’t free.

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        It wasn’t really a concern until recently. We didn’t have constant threats against democracy from within our own government when I was a kid.

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          Until recently? We had a little thing called the Civil War that was a bit of a speed bump, too.

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            That’s why I added the part about “when I was a kid”. I suppose I should have clarified that I’m talking about within my lifetime. There have definitely been other dark moments in our history.

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              To be fair “when I was a kid” is a rough estimation that typically can range about a 0-60 year timespan or more.

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          So, Nixon & Watergate wasn’t a threat?

          Citizens United wasn’t a threat?

          And don’t forget the constant attempts of voter ID laws in Republican states.

          Gerrymandering by incumbent parties.

          Poling booth closures and inaccessibility.

          As five examples of an endless, constant stream from Republicans.

          You just have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

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          It’s cyclical. There was an uncannily similar fascist movement in the US immediately prior to WW2. We had members of Congress on the Nazi payroll, for example. It’s happening again; fascism and authoritarianism are on the rise across the globe.

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          You can just tell everyone you are an idiot instead of suggesting you know something they don’t.

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      “You ever notice whenever the republicans do something terrible or prevent something good from happening, it’s always the democrats fault?” -Fucking idiots everywhere.

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        Yeah but we don’t have to eat shit to survive do we? So why the fuck are we acting like Biden was our only choice. What kind of stupid analogy is this?

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      In 2028 a mummified version of Biden will be put forward as candidate until 2032, when a new act in place allow for digital avatars to be president and digital Obama comes back with Yes We Can, Again!

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      And it will happen again and again since the DNC and DGA fund fringe GOP candidates as an ongoing tactic. But that unhappy fact will take a few more election cycles before the non-political folk catch on to the grift.

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        The new existence of this fringe took everyone left of Lindsey Graham by surprise in 2016. It’s not conspiracies all the way down. These people exist and the sooner we realize the center is not where we imagined it was the sooner we can get on with governing and protecting the whole country and not just the little blue parts that like us.

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          Uh, no dude, i’m talking about an existing tactic in use by the Democratic party, which you can find editorials on in like Newsweek n’ shit. Dems are doing this in the open, as it is not illegal.

          I’m not deep webbin’ dawg, you are simply lacking info. Read something first. Then you are allowed an opinion.

          Didn’t read it? Stop being a waste of everyone’s time

          EDIT: clarity, grammar, extra “esteem”

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            I don’t disagree with that, all I’m saying is almost 50% of America really is ready to risk tearing it all down and the truth is only a small number of them would be willing to vote Democrat under any circumstances. For both Democrats and center Republicans, divide and conquer seems the only available strategy. A true third party is the hope of many, but I don’t think they could be left of Biden, and the space on the right is a madhouse. They’d have to basically fall from space in a shower of glory to cut through the mud at this point

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              50% of America really is ready to risk tearing it all down

              A true third party is the hope of many

              I don’t often say this, (cuz what’s the point?) but i’m one of those who has given up on voting Dem. I voted for joe, knowing i hated him in '20. My vote was my parting gift to the party after being a donating member for ~20 years.

              I don’t advocate for others to give up, but after many years of their tomfoolery and lies, the only path forward is to find that third party and start voting for it. Is it a great plan?

              No. It’s not even an ok plan. but its the one I’m rolling with, cuz why would i vote for a party who would rather entreat and berate than earn? I cannot tell you how much rage i feel inside at their sounding the alarm when i watched them start the fire

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            Hell, a Democrat published a book a few years ago about how she did exactly that to win an election. And then she lost to that same nutjob in the very next election!