In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us. Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?

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    If you can, get an eBike. Cars need a ton of expensive resources. No matter what car you get, you’re basically renting it for $10k/yr anyway. Bikes can be fixed with a small set of tools in a living room without thousands of dollars of diagnostic equipment.

    If you can’t do a bike because of distance, consider a motorcycle. That’s at least a little more free than a car. Cars are the worst.

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      I don’t think either one is viable for families, but possibly for single folks, depending upon proximity to urban areas. For folks in the sticks with unpaved roads? I don’t think so.

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        Yeah, I have two kids. We used an eBike in the US. The Dutch would find your comment absolutely hilarious. We do not own a car and haven’t needed one since we moved to the Netherlands. The problem is that you have a proprietary transit infrastructure that forces you to use property cars. Infrastructure is your vendor lock in.

        The majority of car trips are under one mile and have one passenger. In the vast majority of cases you can replace a car with an eBike.

        This just reminds me of someone else saying something like every time you suggest a car replacement suddenly everyone needs to carry a couch 300 miles in the snow.

        It is not possible to be free while you have a car. But yeah, some times your forced in to that by the complete failure of American infrastructure. Cars continue to be your worst option, even if you’re forced to use them.

        Edit: Correction, over 60% are under 5 miles, 28% are under a mile. Only 2% are over 50 miles. 69% of the total annual vehicle miles traveled in the U.S. occur in urban areas. In 2019, average car occupancy was 1.5 persons per vehicle.chart showing 75% of trips driving alone

        https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/mobility/personal-transportation-factsheet https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1230-march-21-2022-more-half-all-daily-trips-were-less-three-miles-2021

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          I wish we had better infra to support bikes. Amsterdam is nice how you can ride around on a bike and get anywhere. It’s healthy, environmentally friendly, and cheap. Win win win.

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          Even in Europe cars are a necessity in a lot of cases. I live in a pretty small village and the only store is 2 towns over and on a pretty steep hill. It would be possible on a motorcycle(I saw normal ebikes struggle to get up) if you’re alone and don’t need anything from the store.

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            If people used bikes or ebikes in the overwhelming majority of cases where it’s possible, it would make it a lot easier to fix the small number of situations where it’s not.

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      Well instead using e-bike why not purchase an old car (from year 2000 - 2018), like old honda civic or old ford fiesta or old Toyota Corolla
      I like your idea but using bike for everything but in the end is bad case especially if you need to go somewhere that very far (well using public transportation in the end kinda costly for longer run especially if you already married & have children)
      I’m not saying it’s wrong to have bike for short trip it’s okay yo used bike, but in the end you need reliable car that can make you go everywhere

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        If you are stuck in a place that actually requires a car then this makes sense. Between the two you’ll save a ton of money.

        In the long term though vehicle to vehicle communication will be required for all cars on the road. You will have (probably property) computer in your car controlling it. Unless you go back to like the 80’s or something you’ll still have a proprietary computer in your car that will need to be replaced.

        But even getting a bike for occasional trips prepares you for gas prices spiking or your car breaking down.