I’m sure you gathered that this demonstrates that simply being a proportional representation parliament didn’t stop far right parties from gaining power, it perhaps even enabled it, as in first past they may have had far less seats.
simply being a proportional representation parliament didn’t stop far right parties from gaining power
No. Because the power that the far right party accrued came - first and foremost - from the German military officers’ corpse and their allies in private industry. The original Beer Hall Putsch wasn’t the result of an election, it was a straight coup. And the leader of that insurrection got turned into a national martyr by propagandists and right-wing agitators thanks to good old fashioned jackboots-on-the-ground rabble rousing.
The German populace was ripe for this kind of agitprop because so many of them - not unfairly - considered their dire economic condition the consequence of foreign government officials who were siphoning off national wealth to profit private industry abroad. This, combined with the White Terror of the 30s to suppress union organizing and the enormous outside investment by American and British Fascists, gave the German movement the legs it needed to compete politically on a national stage.
in first past they may have had far less seats
Largely dependent on the distribution of voters across districts. Historically, FPTP combined with an aggressive gerrymandering of districts, creates seats that are safer for incumbents. But, as we saw in the States, these “safe” seats are still vulnerable to intra-party insurrection.
But all this is secondary to the rapid incorporation of the German Friekorps into the Nazi movement. This gave the party the kind of military muscle that made the election a secondary concern. Even if the Nazis hadn’t won a plurality of seats, they could have just as easily used the organized violence of the state militia to extract concessions through another coup (or at least the threat of one).
“People who refused to vote for Biden” meme is skittering by the innumerable instances in which elections are simply stolen or the results overturned in coups.
You’re talking about a proportionally representative parliamentary system.
The UK has a parliamentary system and it’s still just as possible for the opposition to be entirely powerless for 5 years at a time.
First past the post voting. That’s the problem.
Parliamentary or not. The actual voting system is the problem.
Dont forget the legal bribery in usa.
UK too. It’s just our politicians are much, much cheaper.
(Looks at Weimar Republic) Oh Cmon dude, I think you knew this one was a parliament with proportional representation…
The fundamental problem with German parliamentary democracy wasn’t the structure nearly so much as the leadership.
Maybe Hindenberg just… idk… shouldn’t have appointed Hitler to the Chancellorship. Maybe just don’t do that.
I’m sure you gathered that this demonstrates that simply being a proportional representation parliament didn’t stop far right parties from gaining power, it perhaps even enabled it, as in first past they may have had far less seats.
No. Because the power that the far right party accrued came - first and foremost - from the German military officers’ corpse and their allies in private industry. The original Beer Hall Putsch wasn’t the result of an election, it was a straight coup. And the leader of that insurrection got turned into a national martyr by propagandists and right-wing agitators thanks to good old fashioned jackboots-on-the-ground rabble rousing.
The German populace was ripe for this kind of agitprop because so many of them - not unfairly - considered their dire economic condition the consequence of foreign government officials who were siphoning off national wealth to profit private industry abroad. This, combined with the White Terror of the 30s to suppress union organizing and the enormous outside investment by American and British Fascists, gave the German movement the legs it needed to compete politically on a national stage.
Largely dependent on the distribution of voters across districts. Historically, FPTP combined with an aggressive gerrymandering of districts, creates seats that are safer for incumbents. But, as we saw in the States, these “safe” seats are still vulnerable to intra-party insurrection.
But all this is secondary to the rapid incorporation of the German Friekorps into the Nazi movement. This gave the party the kind of military muscle that made the election a secondary concern. Even if the Nazis hadn’t won a plurality of seats, they could have just as easily used the organized violence of the state militia to extract concessions through another coup (or at least the threat of one).
This is all true…and irrelevant to the point being made.
“People who refused to vote for Biden” meme is skittering by the innumerable instances in which elections are simply stolen or the results overturned in coups.