• iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    you mean the good old days when phone producers still had a bit of respect for what they were doing?

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    9 months ago

    I will be glad if I have removable batteries in my phone.

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      Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro. XCover 6, for short…XCover 7 is released internationally, may or may not hit US. Haven’t looked it up for a while. It better fucking come to the US. 😡

      $1K+ smartphones & folding smartphones are bullshit.

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    My old phone explodes into three parts when it falls down: Cover, battery and SIM card. You know what? I’ve thrown that shitty old thing dozens if not hundreds of times on the floor and it still works. Unlike your precious $3000 smart phones that can’t handle a single face plant.

    IF YOUR DEVICE IS HAND-HELD BUT CAN’T WITHSTAND A FALL FROM HAND HEIGHT, IT’S BROKEN BY DESIGN

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    9 months ago

    Funnily enough, this made the phone less likely to break, as it would offload a bunch of the impact force onto the battery.

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      I swirched to fairphone almost exclusively because their phone has an easily swappable battery (it’s very modular and easily repairable on top of that)

      But if I’m not mistaken then there are new EU regulations coming that demand all batteries be replaceable, so hopefully this won’t be an issue for much longer

      • The first thing I did with my Fairphone was to root it, and tweak the internal BMS/charge controller settings via a terminal. My ~4 year old device battery pretty much still runs like new, still get 2 days of standby.

        From what I read on the FP forums though, users running stock tend to swap out their batteries every 1-2 years, like I had to on my old Galaxy S5. Most manufacturers’ default battery charge profiles target the longest runtime, causing batteries to really degrade quickly.

        For consumers that upgrade every 1-2y they won’t notice this issue, but for those of us who want their phone to last longer than that, we notice this really quickly… in these cases having a swappable battery is a must

        On the topic of modularity, I had my FP’s vibration motor die on me, that was a very easy fix of literally opening up the device, swapping the module, and done. Absolutely love it!

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          You were able to limit the charge/discharge to stay within 20/80% or something like that? That’s awesome, i should look into doing that myself

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            9 months ago

            I have the Fairphone 5. Limiting the charge to 80% is actually a feature without rooting!

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              Damn, i thought i had the fairphone 5 as well, but it was “fairphone 4 5G” 😅

              Time to throw away my ~1 year old phone to buy the newer model! /s

          • Yep, I stay within 30%-91% where possible, and also limit the charge current to 500mA since the device defaults to 2.7A which I think is a bit high…

            As @airbussy@lemmy.one mentioned it’s probably in the settings menu for your device if you’ve got a newer phone.

            On the FP3, the phone’s hardware supports it, but it’s not implemented anywhere in the settings sadly - only way to access it is by rooting

          • On my device the charge is set to cut off at 91%, with the maximum charge current set to 500mA. If I’m in a hurry though I typically boost the max current to 1.1A, or the manufacturer’s 2.7A if absolutely necessary (although I think that’s a bit high personally).

            To be honest a 1A max charge current would be a good balance between charge time and battery longevity IMO - the main purpose of the lower charge current is to reduce internal battery heat during charging, change the growth characteristics of lithium dendrite clumping within the battery, and reduce the chance of the battery swelling.

            I also try to not discharge below 30%.

            I’m not an expert on any of this at all though, I just mainly follow Battery University and some takeaways from a handful of research papers analyzing Lithium-based batteries

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      IME the battery isn’t the issue, especially if you get a phone with a big battery to begin with.

      It’s the lack of updates that’s the issue which means you can no longer use certain critical apps (banking, government, etc.) on your phone.

      The phone becomes obsolete before the battery ever dies.

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          Know any banking apps that work with a custom rom?

          What about your national governments designing an identification or tax related app that works on a custom rom?

          Good luck with that.

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            They don’t have to. Nobody designs their apps to work with specific ROMs, they design it to work with Android. Custom ROMs are still android ROMs, they’re just managed by open source communities instead of phone OEMs.

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              But if you have the ‘wrong’ version of android, the app will simply refuse to work. These kinds of apps are understandably picky because of security. And you can’t expect banks/governments to make exceptions for a small minority who uses a custom version of android.

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                That does not depend on the version, but on google’s safetynet. Apps can check with it if your phone runs an approved installation, which means not just being limited to the original ROM, but one that still contains all the garbage data mining apps that will also drain your battery and your mobile data plan, besides taking away your privacy.

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                Who do you think that custom ROMs don’t use the latest version of Android?

                And what do you think “custom version of Android” means? Every single android phone OEM needs to make their own ROMs. Are they all running custom android? Even Google pixels?

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            Your banking apps starts to only work on latest Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max+ and only on Verizon 5G network.

            OH, I’ll guess I have to switch, there is no other option for me.

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      You guys Europeans? I’ve heard we can’t get Fairphone 5 in the US, and also, I’ve heard bad things about the battery. You guys happy with your Fairphones? I’m just feeling out my options.

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    They really should have built those batteries with screws that can still be easy to replace, but won’t fly out as easily

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      “maybe just don’t have accidents”
      -lowleveldata, 2024, solved all traffic accidents forever

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        I mean… If people were routinely crashing all their cars to the point they must put them in protective rubber bumpercart material, yeah, maybe stop being so reckless.

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          My dude, cars literally have a part of them called “bumper” that is made of rubber. Hundreds of people die everyday in car accidents and thousands more have injuries. Cars destroy buildings, crash into homes and stores, run over crowds, kill pedestrians, destroy infrastructure and even catch on fire on their own, every single day, in the thousands. This isn’t even considering fender benders and near misses which are probably in the hundreds of thousands every day. If anything I think phone dropping is way less frequent than car accidents.

          And I’m only using numbers from the USA alone, now consider the whole fucking planet!

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        Hey don’t put words in my mouth. It’s way easier to prevent dropping your phone than traffic accidents.