That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.
What do you suggest they do?
I’ve got all sorts of suggestions, check my comment history.
I read a full page of them and I saw zero suggestions, just a lot of bad faith arguing. I’m not going to spend my time filtering through your nonsense to find whatever nuggets you think I should see, and no one else should have to, either.
Great, I’m glad you’re fine with a president bending over backward to facilitate a genocide, accelerating the climate apocalypse, and taking a far right stance on the border. Vote blue no matter who lol.
Actively trying to negotiate a cease fire - says Israel has a right to defend against Hamas, but that they need to protect innocent Palestinians. Trump says Israel should finish the job and has advocated for using nukes in the middle east.
Negotiated a massive bipartisan infrastructure bill (with a divided, polarized government) that included huge improvements for green energy and electric vehicles. Trump consistently weakened government regulations of corporate emissions, promotes coal, and argues against electric vehicles.
Negotiated a bipartisan bill that has way more than enough support by both Democrats and Republicans to reduce the problem at the border. Trump successfully advocated for not bringing the bill to the floor for a vote because it’s more useful to have a border problem to use as a political weapon (actually said that). Biden worked to reunite families separated at the border by Trump.
Yeah, I’ll comfortably vote for Biden, even though I don’t think he’s percent. I think he’s at least a decent and fairly effective president, while Trump is a complete train wreck. But you go ahead and keep trying to convince people that Biden has flaws, so they should instead help elect Trump by voting independent or not voting at all.
I suspect all your arguments really are intended to help elect Trump by weakening support for Biden. They’re so overtly bad faith arguments.
If you read an entire page of my comments and think I support trump because I’m critical of Biden, you’re stupider than I thought :P
I think you’re arguing against voting for Biden, which ends up being the same as supporting Trump. You’re either doing that intentionally or you can’t grasp the simple fact.
I think trump is worse than Biden. You’d have to be a braindead American to think otherwise. Now that I’ve passed the purity test, what would you like to talk about? The genocide, the migrants in cages, or the record oil production? Record homelessness? His strike breaking?
All of those things are problems, and we should talk about them and how to fix them. Biden says they’re problems, too. If we’re in a thread about, say, the southern border, and you were bringing up these issues and Biden’s failings, I’d be right along with you.
What I object to is people coming into a thread about who should be the next president saying “Fuck Biden” because he isn’t doing enough at the border or hasn’t taken a strong enough stand on Gaza. I object to that because the implicit message is “don’t vote for Biden,” which will directly result in Trump getting elected, and Trump is far worse in all these areas.
false dichotomy
It’s really not. We have a two party system. If you don’t vote for the better choice, you might as well vote for the other. It really is that simple.