so ive been playing d4 for a while now and though I like it in general, its only a poor excuse of what PoE offers.

d4 only offers a few cookie cutter builds, feels even more streamlined and dumbed down than d3 did and i dont see myself replaying it alot since its open world, from what ive seen so far, is biring and bland.

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    For me, I enjoyed D4 as a nice campaign. Played through a few times, once with my partner and another solo.

    D4 pros: Impeccable game feel, moment to moment combat, graphics and even some nice storytelling. Enjoy the QoL features for alts and the myriad of endgame loops; Helltides are a lot of fun.

    D4 cons: Dungeons are boring to me. Builds that feel fun and powerful are limited to 0-2 per class; a big letdown. Weird network / instance lag which stands out among the otherwise polished aesthetic. Middling open world re: exploration to reward ratio.

    PoE pros: Deeeeeep. Hardcore. Aspirational? Still haven’t cleared the campaign despite getting closer each league. Lots of builds and skill variety.

    PoE cons: Feels like the oldest baguette ever to exist. Wildly stiff gameplay. Ugh its such shit compared to D4. Like DMC vs Skyrim level of difference. Disparate, cheap feeling UI and tacked on storytelling. Exudes HardXCore__Statzz.xls energy and feels practically impossible to navigate a viable build without a guide.

    In the end I think Grim Dawn outplays both D4 and PoE. Check it out if you love ARPGs

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    I’m not sure I can change your view but will say that PoE was one of the most frustrating, clunky experiences in gaming I’ve ever had. I can’t remember how far I got but I remember ultimately feeling like the game was ugly and the story was boring and gameplay was irritating.

    I like crafting my own builds and trying to mess with things on my own and PoE actively seems to prevent you from doing that effectively. The skill tree is so bloated and convoluted that to try and make something on your own with having an immense amount of experience in the game would be an exercise in futility.

    For me, Diablo IV has been a great experience. At worst, it’s about as good as Diablo III, which I also happened to enjoy a lot. There’s no comparison on my end. I enjoy one of the game and wouldn’t download the other again unless I had a gun to my head.

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    @LeChuck

    Ive played a lot of POE and also now am level 80 in D4, and in my mind they offer different experiences.

    I completely agree, POE is definitely more hardcore and caters to a much grindier mindset than D4 does.

    D4 is much more streamlined and designed for the ‘everyday person’. Which is historically what Blizzard did best. Think Civ vs Warcraft. Everquest vs WoW, CS vs Overwatch.

    I am enjoying D4, and hope it will have a bit of longevity… but it certainly is not the same ‘itch’ scratch that a season of POE is.

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        The whole system is just so convoluted. If you have a build you like upgrading gear is just a chore. You need the right amount of sockets and the right type of sockets to fit the skill gems you’re using. Like just give me a skill tree with skills in it instead of tying the skills to gems. On top of that the talent tree is just a huge mess of utterly boring passives.

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          The tree has absolutely more than just boring passives. Just look at the keystones.

          The gem system (aside from the sockets, but that will change with poe 2) might be weird at first, but it gives you skill versatility in a way no other game has. I find skill trees like they are in other games to be kinda eh in comparison now.