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      6 months ago

      There’s nothing that anyone can do in 2024 in the MS Office suite of applications specifically that I can’t find a third party or cloud equivalent of to do the exact same thing.

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          Most young people are unfamiliar with Office. Once the older generation retires Office is probably going to be dead.

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              6 months ago

              What will they use Word and Excel for that can’t be replaced by docs and calc? We already have automated time tracking software.

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                VBA scripts. I have a friend who works in the radio/telcom industry…but ends up doing a bunch of other stuff. This friend makes extensive use of VBA scripts to get the job done. You can’t do that on the web version, and you can’t do it in Calc.

                Word is just for document interchange. Other businesses and clients use Word documents, and they don’t display reliably correctly in any other program but Word.

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                  VBA scripts are notorious for being security weaknesses but I guess they are still used in some places

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                  6 months ago

                  Oh, so you should suck up to Microsoft being incompatible with their own standard because they’re incompatible with their own stabdard? Is that basically what you’re saying? And also, you can use odt in Microsoft Word, which is interoperable with LibreOffice and Google Docs

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                    Oh, so you should suck up to Microsoft being incompatible with their own standard because they’re incompatible with their own stabdard? Is that basically what you’re saying?

                    I don’t use Microsoft Office, but I use Adobe. If the people I collaborate with or I work for use Adobe and need to edit my files, I’m not going to give them something done in Scribus instead of inDesign. That would be doing a bad job and also limiting their choices significantly with who they can go with in the future to edit their files. Same principle applies to Microsoft Office.

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      6 months ago

      Since when does a manager need office? This isn’t 1998

      Not to mention most of the younger generation grew up with Chromebooks.

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      You are already drowning in downvotes. Certainly managers are going to have to use office software. I do not think that using Microsoft Offce in school makes it any more likely that you will become a manager.

      Most managers are really not that great at using Ofice and, what they know, they learned on the job. Learning to use PowerPoint is more about leaning how to present and communicate in general. A course on the software is not going to teach that and knowing how to use LibreOffice Impress gives you more than enough expertise. In terms of presentation, the marketing department typically dictates the look and feel. You just need to populate a template. None of the executives I know use anything advanced out of Microsoft Word. If you can “track changes”, you can collaborate on documents. Really the only application that managers are likely to have any specialist knowledge around is Excel. I will admit that knowing Excel specifically vs other spreadsheet applications is useful. Being able to do a VLOOKUP, a pivot table, or even just proper multi-sheet formulas is useful. Even just being able to format effectively can make a difference in how professionally you come across. Honestly though, the Internet is littered with $19 Excel courses. Take one.