cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/19442327

It’s a known bug from upstream mutter. A fix is being worked on and there’s a PPA with the updated packages by the Ubuntu developer working on the fix. It resolved the problem on my end.

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      You have to upgrade from that 386DX. I have some spare parts I can send your way.

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          It shouldn’t be CPU bound at all. I have a i7-6700k in my server and my vfio desktop (4 cores allocated) with an AMD GPU runs fine. The reason is because it is accelerated though the GPU. If I do something CPU heavy it is a bad experience.

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      If this is true, there is something wrong with your system.

      I have an old Sony vaio laptop with an i5-3210M (early 2012) and it doesn’t do that at all.

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          Yes, there must be. There’s not any discernable delay in typing or anything like that, it’s certainly no slower than Plasma when clicking or typing anything, and it’s a hell of a lot faster than Windows.

          If you are being truthful, you are experiencing some kind of issue.

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              I’ve used XFCE plenty. It’s a mixed bag in terms of performance. Most of the time it’s quick enough. Gnome definitely feels smoother, due to Wayland support.

              Maybe when XFCE finally gets proper Wayland support it’ll perform as well as Gnome does.

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                  Gnome “performs” just as well as anything else. In fact, it is better than Xfce4 in some ways as it is Wayland based.

                  I’m not sure why you think gnome is somehow this bloated desktop that lags and is slow. I’ve been using gnome for quite some time and it has never been what you describe. Gnome isn’t any heavier than anything else when it comes to IO. You seem to have just arbitrarily decided that gnome is slow without much in the way of evidence.

                  Xfce4 is probably going to be lighter weight overall than gnome or KDE. However, it isn’t this magical desktop and if your computer is bound up by a drawing text and icons on the display then Xfce4 is not going to help you. KDE and Gnome are both a little ram heavy but that’s because they are much bigger desktops.

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              You said it wasn’t fine. Now you’re saying it is?

              I started “experiencing input delay / lag in GNOME” since I first used it. It’s normal, every thing you click or type requires a 2s animation to show up, usually rendered with CSS themes. lol

              So am I to understand that your complaint about Gnome has changed from “I have severe performance issues and input lag, even using a desktop i7” to “minimising has a 0.2 second animation, just as practically every other UX has, and rather than just turn it off, I’m going to argue with people about it online and call the entire project shit”

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              I like the animations and I no longer use a 14 year old Thinkpad so the slight difference in performance is a non issue. In fact Gnome performs better now for me than it did 3-4 years ago on identical hardware. If you’re having lag while typing you either have an issue with your graphics driver or are using a Core 2 Duo.

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      Gnome… buggy?

      Look I get that a lot of people have this irrational hateboner for Gnome, I know the workflow is very different from the traditional WinUX, and some people don’t like that, but buggy?

      Gnome is astonishingly and notoriously stable for being a modern, regularly updated DE that leverages modern Linux stuff like PipeWire, Wayland, portals, etc. It’s part of why it’s used so extensively in enterprise Linux settings, and part of what made so many distros switch to it over the years. It’s not a buggy DE at all.

      Also, using Gnome and then seeing someone else have a bug, then dismissing the whole project as a buggy pile of trash and saying it needs to be uninstalled from your system? Lmao come off it.

      E: accidentally referred to Gnome as a distro 🤦‍♀️

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        I, too, have been a longtime fan of Gnome. It’s workflow IMO is quite practical and pleasant to use.

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        It’s doubly more surprising that it’s as stable as it is given the trashy language it’s written in. No I don’t mean C, I mean the GObject piles on top of it.

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          Yes, and it also uses web technologies to render themes

          As do other DEs to varying extents, including the other “main” DE, KDE Plasma. I don’t really see what your point is there.

          and has zero sense of usability.

          Heavy disagree. The workflow is amazing. To me, using the Windows UX paradigm is clunky and less usable. Gnome is very, very usable.

          Perhaps you mean to say that you don’t like it, which is fair enough for your own tastes, but you aren’t the arbiter of what’s usable and what isn’t.

          Could I just ask what your point is here? I’m refuting the baseless assertion that Gnome is an extremely buggy DE.

          If you don’t like the workflow then fair enough, it’s certainly quite different from the Windows way of doing things that we’re all used to, and you’re entitled to your opinion that it’s not for you, but I don’t see how it’s relevant to my comment?

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              Gnome is amazing for me. I don’t want a busy desktop I want simple and elegant.

              You don’t have to like it. There are plenty of other options. Also saying it somehow promotes proprietary software is just downright wrong. You know what promotes proprietary software? People installing proprietary software.

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              C’mon I never said it was buggy

              That’s what this comment chain is about, though, which is why I was asking what relevance your opinion that the workflow is bad has.

              Unfortunately GNOME insists on reinventing the wheel about every two years

              Again with getting further off-topic! What does this have to do with the assertion that Gnome is buggy?

              Not that it’s even true anyway, it’s a total lie. There has been no “reinventing the wheel” since Gnome 3 came out something like 13 years ago — that’s quite a while! But feel free to tell me how Gnome has “reinvented the wheel” recently. I’m all ears.

              What’s the point is in having a well funded team when you want to change network settings and you’ve to go through three different kinds of UIs

              Again, how is this on topic? Did you reply to my initial comment by mistake?

              Again, it’s not even true. There’s one UI in the settings (and across the whole system), I don’t know why you’re making stuff up?

              The rest of your rant seems to be Gnome is inconsistent which is… wow. Gnome is easily the most consistent UX in Linux. Period. Including ChromeOS and Android.

              But again, what does that have to do with the assertion that it’s buggy?

              Bluntly it seems to me like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Maybe some Gnome devs spitroasted your girlfriend, maybe there’s just some insecurity and the need to shit on something other people like in order to justify your own choices.

              I don’t care tbh, I just don’t see the relevance of your rants to my comment or even the comment I replied to.

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              If the animations are running slow then your hardware is likely the culprit. Make sure you have a GPU made in the last 10-15 years or so.

              I don’t deny that Xfce4 is going to be lighter weight but saying it is faster is a stretch.