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mozz@mbin.grits.dev to Technology@beehaw.org · 1 年前

FireChat was a tool for revolution. Then it disappeared.

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FireChat was a tool for revolution. Then it disappeared.

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mozz@mbin.grits.dev to Technology@beehaw.org · 1 年前
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With FireChat, people were free to communicate and coordinate with each other without the message having to first filter through someone's data center. Why did the app shut down without notice?
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    What about Session, the Signal fork?

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      Session has made some insecure solution surrounding important design elements like forward secrecy

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      That is meshnet based

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        And? It works on iOS.

        I’m missing the point. Was it that systems like Briar can’t work in iOS because they aren’t mesh net? If so, why not choose one that does, like Session?

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          For anyone considering Session messenger:


          The Session developers dropped Perfect Forward Secrecy because it would be hard to work around it.

          First things first, let’s talk about what we’re leaving behind: Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) and deniability.

          Source: https://getsession.org/session-protocol-explained

          In plain English, they dropped a security feature for their convenience to the detriment of their users’ security.

          For anyone unsure what PFS provides:

          The value of forward secrecy is that it protects past communication.

          Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_secrecy

          The Session devs also claim:

          Session provides protections against these types of threats in other ways — through fully anonymous account creation, onion routing, and metadata minimisation, for example.

          Reading between the lines, we can interpret that as introducing security through obscurity, which is generally considered bad practice - https://cwe.mitre.org/data/definitions/656.html

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          The point is being able to communicate when the internet is shut off

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