• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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    5 months ago

    Idk, I think pushing to move the party left and working within the bounds of the party positions are kind of mutually exclusive, right?

    Like as an example, if I thought we should all have pineapple on pizza, but the party position was to have mushrooms instead, I would need to vocalize that desire for pineapple somehow, right? I would at least say, “hey, I don’t want mushrooms on my pizza. Could we do pineapple instead?”.

    I don’t think quietly accepting the mushrooms is at all compatible with pushing for pineapple.

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      5 months ago

      Um, no? You can vote and push for change at the same time.

      Imagine half of the people in the room wants shrimp pizza, which you happen to detest. Yet you’re exclusively dunking on and shouting at the mushroom group to keep it shut and stop suggesting mushrooms. Well?

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        5 months ago

        dunking on and shouting at the mushroom group to keep it shut and stop suggesting mushrooms.

        I find it concerning that I no can no longer tell which group is supposed to be the one telling the other to shut up about the toppings

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          5 months ago

          I know you’ve got a ban but, hopefully you can see this.

          I find it concerning that I no can no longer tell which group is supposed to be the one telling the other to shut up about the toppings

          This is actually a rather good reflection of the reality, though maybe not the way that you intend. Anti-electoralism, accelerationism, and right-wing politcs, by the data on outcomes are equivalent. It is hard to tell, at this time, whether an individual supporting the former two is genuinely a believer, a state actor, or other political operative.