• Kaboom@reddthat.com
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    5 months ago

    Its not our “moral duty” to provide “refuge”.

    What on earth gave you that idea?

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      5 months ago

      “The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations And Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and propriety of conduct they appear to merit the enjoyment.”

      Some dweeb with no relevance to our country idk

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        5 months ago

        If we are going to go with what Washington would do, do you really think he would be cool with a millions of non-whites as immigrants?

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          Honestly, hard to say. Maybe, maybe not… those guys had a weird disconnect between ‘nice black man I met on the street’ and ‘slaves I own’. But even if he wouldn’t want them, what he said is still true. America should be open to everyone. Pretty much all of us are immigrants here, our families coming in search of a better life. We should be opening our doors to the world, not closing them.

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            5 months ago

            My issue is how they pick and chose what they like and ignore the rest. The issue with opening our doors to the world is that we have a gigantic welfare system that they have access to. If that were closed I can see the option being good to some level.

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              5 months ago

              ‘Gigantic welfare system’? What alternate-universe US are you living in? Our welfare system is shit. We don’t even have universal healthcare!

              Welfare should be to help support struggling people. Helping those who are struggling improves not only their lives, but all of society as well. This has been proven over and over again—just look at UBI programs. We should be offering more support, not less.

              These people pay taxes same as legal Americans, through their employer. They should therefore get access to every American system except voting.

              Edit: relevant post lol

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                5 months ago

                You are not aware of how the system works… If you are poor there is a huge amount of money and services you get including healthcare. Since the War on Poverty began, the US has spend something like $20 trillion.