• NateNate60@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Hard disagree here. I don’t like dying from cholera, measles, and smallpox nor would I enjoy working sunrise to sunset on a farm.

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      4 months ago

      Not having to have 20 children because 10 die as babies and the other 10 are your only means of retirement is also a big plus

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      4 months ago

      It’s just too bad the industrial revolution lead to capitalism overdrive. That would have been a great historical inflection point to switch over to socialism. I mean people tried, but they got murdered.

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      4 months ago

      Oh yeah I’m not an anarcho-primitivist or an outright Kaczynski fan, but I honestly do think he had some really good points about the condition we find ourselves in. Of course he was slightly bonkers, and eg. the whole “I’ll fix things by murdering computer scientists” thing maybe wasn’t his best idea, and his definition of freedom was pretty strict – I don’t think that eg. stopping at a red traffic light robs me of essential freedoms.

      I’m big into degrowth though – so while I don’t want to totally dismantle all technological development since the wheel, I think it’s clear that we humans and the planet can’t handle the current mass-scale industrial information society and we need to pretty radically scale down our resource use and a lot of our current comforts if we want to avoid completely fucking our ecosystem.

      Here is a pretty good article on degrowth anarchism, in case anybody’s interested. Definitely worth reading even if you don’t agree with any of it