Oh, don’t misunderstand me. I’m human, there’s no question I was surly to or around the kids in a moment when my mind was elsewhere. When it would happen, I’d try to make it a learning moment for myself and do better, maybe make a teaching moment for the kids too. The point would be to reinforce that what I did wasn’t okay, and not an example how we wanted to talk to each other.

What I certainly wouldn’t do is casually relate that incident to a reporter the way Vance did, suggesting that ‘shut the hell up’ is a normal interaction in my family. That’d be weird.