Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn’t the perfect name but it’s more memorable than kbin.
kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE
That’s what I needed to hear today. genius
Speaking about names. What the hell is a “magazine”?? It’s like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.
Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.
Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.
I literally chose Lemmy instead of kbin because kbin sounds like a KDE app.
Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.
Rust > PHP
Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months. Vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.
Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there any more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world test PHP can very often be faster then - less-than-mature-Rust codebase.
I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.
Probably but anything > node.
I’ve tried both. Here are some thoughts.
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I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.
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Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.
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I don’t like that I can’t see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.
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I’m wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).
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I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there’s more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.
What a difference, we can talk to each other :F
I’m in both, but I’m a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit’s time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.
I wouldn’t mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.
I think lemmy looks nicer visually. I’ll probably give kbin a try at some point.
It was the first one I knew about and I haven’t had a reason to switch over. I already knew about lemmy long before all of the reddit drama happened, so that was where I went a few days before the blackout. I had never even heard of kbin until after I’d already been on lemmy for a while. Also, rust > php, and calling communities “magazines” is weird.
I’ll agree that calling communities “magazines” is weird.
The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. “Sub” took on it’s own meaning after Reddit.
“Fetch” still isn’t happening, so we’ll see.
I’m torn as well. I find it easier to navigate Lemmy but Kbin’s interface feels much more polished.
As someone who wants to self-host an instance, which would you guys recommend? I’ve been reading through the documentation for both and Lemmy seems easier to install. Does anyone have experience with both? I’m interested to know how well they scale in terms of performance.
edit: And to add, I’m not a fan of kbin’s “microblog” and “magazine” is a strange word for “community”.
I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would’ve been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it
I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.
It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.
on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.
also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.
The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community
Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.
That made it work.
Idk i just heard of lemmy first
I feel like Lemmy has more content, probably because it’s been around longer, so it’s a good base to build from.
I’m also giving an answer to the other thread on Kbin, since I think there are good reasons to use that one as well. They’re both solid, and I’m using both regularly–often viewing posts from one service on the other. For me, it’s “yes AND,” not “no BUT.”
Genuine question here, how can Lemmy have more content if it’s all federated? Wouldn’t Kbin, despite being much younger, have all the same content?
It should be pretty similar, with the notable exception of defederation. Eg, beehaw users will see a lot less content because they blocked a very large number of instances, including some of the biggest ones.
I think that bigger instances will also see more on /all, which I think is a massive flaw and usability issue. I’ve been experimenting today and it seems that you need someone on your instance subbed to a community for it to… Well, basically be usable to any degree whatsoever. Both kbin and Lemmy have absolutely horrible UX for communities on other instances that nobody on your instance have subbed to yet. I can’t stress enough how truly terrible the UX is. The community won’t show up in /all until subbed to, yet figuring out how to sub to it is hilariously difficult (seriously, go try it).
So basically, you want the biggest instance you can find. Small instances should be avoided until this is improved (unless you don’t care about /all or ease of subscribing to new communities, I guess).
Right but Kbin doesn’t defederate with many if anyone right now. You can also block entire instances as an individual user so defederation is less important in Kbin.
Are you talking about Lemmy for that testing? On Kbin I regularly see communities with no Kbin users subbed, just a large amount of upvotes. The algorithm for “hot” content on the all feed works much better on Kbin right now. Subbing to an any community is easy on Kbin. You just open it via a link and tap the menu to bring up controls for the magazine/community.
I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.
Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can’t even use it because it’s flying downwards?
Php
