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    Many are supporting the duopoly’s funding of genocide of the Palestinian people due to Zionism’s hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC.

    As we learn and grow, exposing ourselves to diverse ideas that we do not agree with, our world view changes as well, unless we construct our own echo chambers by self-censoring ourselves.

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      not everything is related to another conflict in the middle east dude, it wasn’t even mentioned here. lol

      also careful. “Zionism’s hold on our government and politicians, per AIPAC.” is the same as alt-rights “Jews control the government” – Not allowed per instance rules

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                  Anti zionism is not a nazi ideology what the fuck. How is being against people being displaced and forced to live in inhumane conditions something a nazi thinks?

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                  Doesn’t matter, unfortunately.

                  Per instance rules, no calling people names.

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                  I mean, I won’t argue on the Israel-destruction thing, but I don’t think being secular makes you a nazi.

                  I’m anti-Zionist, anti-caliphate, anti-Christendom, you know, secular.

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                    Secularism has nothing to do with the wish to destroy Israel, wich is what anti Zionism is. Israel itself is a very secular country, have you been there?

                    Also 99% of people that are “anti Zionist” are actually just normal antisemitic people that don’t want jews to live. Iran for example is famously “anti Zionist” so is Russia, and China.

                    The not acceptance of theocracies would be a great point to support Israel.

                    Israel has btw about 20% native Muslim population, they have the exact same rights as the jews and Christians and hindustan (yes Israel has a relatively strong hindu community wich is growing) and there are also many other religions. Guess where there is only one religion?

                    RIGHT! in the terrorist havens that aren’t strong enough to fight these bastards that use them as meat shields and for propaganda.

                    Remember the Beirut blast? That was a Hezbolla/Iran weapon factory, where they made bombs.

                    How in the world can a normal human not support Israel and believe the obvious lies about it? Its always the same, as long as it involves jews, its their fault. And when not, they are behind the “bad guys” i thought this ass mentality died after WW2 but no its stronger than ever.

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                    Except at the same time Nazi Germany was also courting Amin al-Husseini (who was later the leader of Mandatory Palestine) and instructing the arab world to slaughter their Jews.

                    It’s pretty clear that Nazi Germany wanted them in one place to make the extermination easier; hence why they gathered all the Jews they could find.

                    Saying that Nazi Germany supported Zionism is a gross misunderstanding of Nazi Germany and Jews in WW2. It makes it sound like Nazi Germany was a-okay with Jews so long as they stuck to their own place, which is blatantly false and highly suspect to even be arguing.

                    It also explains why caliphates in the Middle East are rife with Nazi German rhetoric and why there are so much Nazi-era books and reading material inside Gaza.

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                    Education is a real mess in the mid west it seems. You are worse than the other lemmygrad guys. You are the embodiment of “i don’t understand history and language” just WOW.

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              I am closer to a Red than a Nazi.

              Further clarification: Red being a communist.


              Thanks for the reminder of this song:

              Oi! band formed after a hard drinking afternoon in 1997. At that time there were only three members. It was Jerome Reuter ROME, on drums and vocals, Tom Luciani on guitar and Muck on bass. After playing gigs here and there in some pubs of Luxembourg, a first little recording was released, a demo-tape called Cider Lane 77, of which a limited amount of copies were sold. After Muck left the band in 1999, the line-up had to be changed.

              The lyrics to The Skinflicks’s song What I Am are a defiant statement of identity in the face of societal pressures to conform. The song emphasizes the importance of self-expression and the rejection of political ideologies that seek to control or manipulate individuals. The skinhead identity, according to the song, is about more than just fashion choices - it represents a rejection of both far-right and far-left political beliefs in favor of a distinct cultural identity.[1]

              Song: What I Am - The Skinflicks[2]

              Lyrics[3]

              Cuz I’m not a nazi, I’m not a red

              I’ve had enough of your politics

              I’m not a nazi, I’m not a red

              For all I am is a … Skinhead!

              That’s what I am, it’s all I wanna be

              That’s what I am, it’s all I wanna be

              That’s what I am, it’s all I wanna be


              1. [1] https://sonichits.com/video/The_Skinflicks/What_I_Am ↩︎

              2. [2] https://youtu.be/5xSP0vBZAd0 ↩︎

              3. [3] https://www.songlyrics.com/the-skinflicks/what-i-am-lyrics/ ↩︎

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                  Edit: format and added more sentences


                  Redfash

                  TIL.

                  I disagree with your labels again; you seem to just be using such labels so you can continue to ignore and dismiss anyone that does not think like you want them to.

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        I disagree; foreign policy has a lot to do with our country and what happens in other countries as well.

        Zionism =/= Judaism

        Many that are for censorship try to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points. to make it seem like it is, so continued support of genocide can continue, but we must not fall for their talking points.

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          Do you support a two-state solution? If the answer is yes, then congratulations, you are inherently a zionist. If your answer is no, then I hope you’re not advocating for violence, as that is disallowed.

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            Even Israel is against a two-state solution and a one-state solution.

            Israel’s goal has always been to remove all natives from Palestinian land.

            This conflict has been ongoing for many decades, while continuing to escalate, ceasefire, and negotiations should be the goal, but it seems WWIII might be closer to happening than negotiations happening again.

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              I won’t argue about which side wants what; it’s a pointless discussion that won’t get anywhere.

              I can only warn you not to say anything related to alt-right hate speech, such as claiming that Jews control foreign governments. It’s not allowed.

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                  Alright, I’ve warned you twice to stay on topic and not to use alt-right conspiracies, and you’re still ranting about this.

                  Your propaganda post is also unsourced and comes from an extremist account that engages in doxxing–I mean, what? How do you expect the equivalent of a turning point poster to convince anyone? Too far gone, man.

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            This is literally all that Jimmy does. Linkerbaan as well. Bitching and arguing with people about the war in Gaza is their entire personality and life. Must be a very miserable life.

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              And they develop Lemmy…

              Yeah I can’t say they are all that agreeable but I have respect for the development aspect

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                who are you referring to with this? afaik neither Linkerbaan nor jimmydoreisalefty are involved in development

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            Genocide was brought up.

            A current genocide is ongoing with our funding and military help (United States).

            It might be a bit of a tangent, but I thought it would fit in that it shows that many people support and are against the Palestinian genocide as well.

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      I think there is a big difference between critically thinking and propaganda. When you are young you are susceptible to all sorts of ideas.

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        Young or old, propaganda works on those of all ages; building up our critical thinking skills should be the goal for everyone.

        Just looking at the current political tribalism, it is at an all-time high again.

        Owner-class media (Main Stream Media or Legacy Media) trust is at an all-time low, while independent journalists are increasing their grassroots support.