• Nurgus@lemmy.world
    52·
    2 months ago

    “Revolution only ever results in a change of masters”

    “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”

        • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
          1·
          2 months ago

          I’m not sure why you’re arguing in favour of literal slavery, but ok. There are other examples:

          • Bavaria in 1919
          • Spain with the CNT/FAI in the 1930s
          • The 1905 revolution in Russia, along with the 1917 revolution
          • Nurgus@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            I’m not arguing for slavery, you’re misunderstanding the quote. I didn’t say the change of masters was inherently no better than the previous masters.

            Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in.

            The fact that Haitians were eventually much better off than as slaves doesn’t change that.

            • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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              2 months ago

              Revolution is always, in every example, a doorway for powerhungry authoritarians to swoop in.

              I disagree. Like I said: CNT/FAI Catalonia, 1919 Bavaria and anarchist Ukraine are counterexamples.

              If a revolution is thorough enough to eradicate the hierarchical structure of oppression, it doesn’t have to be used by authoritarians.