LOL, yeah, man, it’s just dozens of Democratic politicians, a union, and a lobbying firm. It’s not real until some chud with a Poli Sci degree says it on MSNBC.
Well, first of all, if you think the people giving their, “analysis,” on MSNBC aren’t biased, LOL. People get on MSNBC (or NPR, CNN, Fox News, etc.) for their confidence, not their objectivity. Nate Silver was the closest thing to an, “all data, no opinion,” guy, and he turned into exactly the kind of loud mouthed pundit he started out debunking. Second, if you want objective fact, why not trust the poll I showed you where she’s behind with Arab voters? Or the poll from earlier this month that showed her in a statistical tie with Trump among Arab voters? Or the poll that came out today that showed Harris lead is completely gone?
Like, I don’t know what else to you; Harris’ poll numbers have been dropping, she’s in a statistical dead heat with Trump in Michigan, and she’s polling much worse among Arab Americans than Biden did in 2020. Those are objective facts. If you want to ignore them until someone on TV tells you to be concerned, fine, but I’ve given it some thought, and my personal analysis is that it scares the shit out of me.
“Don’t trust the experts” is really NOT a compelling argument lol, makes me tend to think you got nothing.
The root of the question is, if she takes a hard stance on Gaza, does she gain more Muslim and Leftist voters than she loses moderates? And will this affect critical swing states?
Individual poll numbers about Muslims don’t matter without context.
The numbers according to the Newsweek article show about 45% Trump, 43% Harris, 4% Stein, 6% undecided, and 2% refused to say (not sure why the Libertarian candidate wasn’t included, as he’s on the ballot in 47 states). It seems most Arab Americans don’t want to vote for Trump, but even more don’t want to vote for Harris.
I would argue that Harris is the better vote for people who support Gaza, but I’m not going to tell the Palestinian Americans who won’t support her that what they’re doing is a, “protest vote,” or imply they’re indifferent to the carnage in Gaza. The privileged position is the one where you get to make a cool, detached argument for harm reduction, not the one where you have to choose between which candidate will fund the ethnic cleansing of your homeland.
So pandering to idiots is bad when democrats veer to the center to get centrist votes, but it’s good when Harris takes a stand on Gaza?
Hot take: morons are morons. Left and right. Fuck em.
I mean, her poll numbers are dropping as she goes to the center, so yes, apparently.
I don’t think any serious analysts are suggesting that stronger support of Gaza would help her. If you know of any, I’d love to read about them.
Representatives Ayanna Pressley, Summer Lee, Ilhan Omar, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Cori Bush, Chuy Garcia, as well Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, Chicago Mayor Brandon, Johnson, the United Auto Workers and J Street have all warned her that she needs to be more supportive of the Palestinian community. No one is saying she would win if she denounced Israel, but many people were warning her that she had to do something to show Palestinians that she gave a shit about them, like have a Palestinian speaker at the DNC or meet with Uncommitted leaders. She refused to do any of those things, and now the Uncommitted movement has declined to endorsed her, Muslim Women for Harris has disbanded, and she’s two points behind Trump with Arab Americans. I don’t think any serious analysts are saying her position on Gaza is helping her.
None of those are analysts lol
LOL, yeah, man, it’s just dozens of Democratic politicians, a union, and a lobbying firm. It’s not real until some chud with a Poli Sci degree says it on MSNBC.
I mean… You say all that as if it’s supposed to be ridiculous. I specifically asked for a non biased professional opinion.
Well, first of all, if you think the people giving their, “analysis,” on MSNBC aren’t biased, LOL. People get on MSNBC (or NPR, CNN, Fox News, etc.) for their confidence, not their objectivity. Nate Silver was the closest thing to an, “all data, no opinion,” guy, and he turned into exactly the kind of loud mouthed pundit he started out debunking. Second, if you want objective fact, why not trust the poll I showed you where she’s behind with Arab voters? Or the poll from earlier this month that showed her in a statistical tie with Trump among Arab voters? Or the poll that came out today that showed Harris lead is completely gone?
Like, I don’t know what else to you; Harris’ poll numbers have been dropping, she’s in a statistical dead heat with Trump in Michigan, and she’s polling much worse among Arab Americans than Biden did in 2020. Those are objective facts. If you want to ignore them until someone on TV tells you to be concerned, fine, but I’ve given it some thought, and my personal analysis is that it scares the shit out of me.
“Don’t trust the experts” is really NOT a compelling argument lol, makes me tend to think you got nothing.
The root of the question is, if she takes a hard stance on Gaza, does she gain more Muslim and Leftist voters than she loses moderates? And will this affect critical swing states?
Individual poll numbers about Muslims don’t matter without context.
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If they vote for Trump, overwhelmingly yes.
The numbers according to the Newsweek article show about 45% Trump, 43% Harris, 4% Stein, 6% undecided, and 2% refused to say (not sure why the Libertarian candidate wasn’t included, as he’s on the ballot in 47 states). It seems most Arab Americans don’t want to vote for Trump, but even more don’t want to vote for Harris.
I would argue that Harris is the better vote for people who support Gaza, but I’m not going to tell the Palestinian Americans who won’t support her that what they’re doing is a, “protest vote,” or imply they’re indifferent to the carnage in Gaza. The privileged position is the one where you get to make a cool, detached argument for harm reduction, not the one where you have to choose between which candidate will fund the ethnic cleansing of your homeland.
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