• pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
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    2 months ago

    So you think Trump would be better than Harris? Because that’s the only thing you get to vote on: Trump or Harris. A vote for neither is a vote for whoever has more votes - and we know that statistically republicans are less likely to vote third party (or not vote), so it most likely is a vote for Trump.

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      2 months ago

      So you think Trump would be better than Harris?

      no, we (speaking for myself and @selah here) don’t support genocidal candidates. stop making up stories in your head and read what people are telling you.

      Because that’s the only thing you get to vote on: Trump or Harris.

      incorrect there were 5 candidates on my ballot. this is a false choice that exists purely in your head. There are many paths to neutralizing trump and that don’t normalize genocide.

      A vote for neither is a vote for whoever has more votes

      incorrect, pure fiction. i suggest you spruce up on your basic addition and ratio math skills. What you mean to say is no vote or a vote for a 3rd party doesn’t help harris, you’re preferred candidate. yes. thereby putting her candidacy at risk. maybe she should adopt some policies to fix this.

      The reason harris is swinging to the right is because the right wing doesn’t care about worker rights and many are also very disgusted with trump. They require no concessions by capital to garner votes; just a general disgust with trump. If trump wasnt running this wouldn’t be possible.

      Hilariously I have no problem with this as a left wing voter. Why? because if the democrats can reliably peel off the few remaining moderate republicans we can finally split this big tent party and get a party that is dedicated to working class rights.

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        2 months ago

        What you mean to say is no vote or a vote for a 3rd party doesn’t help harris, you’re preferred candidate. yes. thereby putting her candidacy at risk.

        so you say that a no vote or 3rd party vote is a vote for trump, then. because those are the only 2 options. either trump or harris will be the next president of the united states. so, hurting harris means helping trump. you do get that, right?

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          2 months ago

          No you say that. My ballot had 5 options. Yours may have a different number depending on the state.

          If you dont like this situation thats not my problem. Its yours. Go demand rcv in your state. Go demand democrats not support a genocide. I wish harris had a single policy that’d make her worth voting for. Sadly her entire platform is already shit my state has with a genocidal cherry on top.

          Sucks to suck I guess. Better luck next election, i hope this one works out for you. Until then i will continue to deny harris my vote in my 20+ dem state and let my critters know they’re on thin ice if israel continues its behavior with our support.

          As ive been telling everyone its perfectly okay to not vote for harris if its not in your interests. Harris’ struggles are her own doing. IF you live in a blue state think hard on your vote there are benfits to voting third party. If you live in a purple or red state Harris’ campaign may be your best option in which case no hard feelings vote for her! Totally understandable.

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          2 months ago

          I just want to point out that the idea that “questioning your party helps the enemy” is an authoritarian mentality. If we aren’t free to demand that the left-of-fascism party stop supporting (funding) genocide, then perhaps the US has already fallen to authoritarianism.

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            you are more than welcomed to pressure kamala on supporting the genocide. in fact, if one week from now she wins, i would hope that the support to stop the genocide continues. i know that AOC and bernie will; and I know that the russian propaganda machine that is just trying to demotivate harris’ voter will not, because their goal is not to protect the people of Palestine, but to impose an authoritarian president in the US. i assume that some of the people here will continue because they actually care; and some will stop because the propaganda machine will point towards something else

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            2 months ago

            But the timeline is:

            1. Prevent worse

            2. After that protest and show the democrats how much you disagree with their stance on that