• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    As an American, I’m rooting for Canada.

    But this all feels very by design of Putin to fracture US alliances.

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      both Canadian and American retirement portfolios will suffer. i don’t know why anyone would root for such a thing at all

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      19 hours ago

      I’m so upset at my Canadian family members who supported Trump.

      I got an uncle who was constantly saying he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business” - i don’t think either trump or him actually understand business all that well.

      I hope Canadian-European relations get stronger, and hopefully Canadian-American relations will be rebuilt once this fucker is gone

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        i’m still waiting for an explanation on how running anything like a business is objectively a good thing.

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        “Run the country like a business” is the dumbest thing ever. If the government was run like a business they’d raise taxes because what business doesn’t want to increase revenue? There would also be an open door immigration policy, because what business turns away potential customers?

        Personally I want the government run like a non-profit organization whose goal is to make my life better, but that’s just me.

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        He will run the country like he does all of his businesses; into the ground.

        He even failed at running a casino. Except this time he will likely be burying thousands of Americans along with the country.

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        he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business”

        THIS MOTHERFUCKER BANKRUPTED A CASINO.

        People say they want him to run the country like a business, but that man bankrupted a money printing machine, probably because he was doing all kinds of illegal shit and didn’t actually run his business like a business. Why would he run a money printing country any different than his money printing business.

        My dumbass uncle feels the same way as yours, and I have to bite my tongue so after to remind him that he and trump have something in common: they both embezzled from their company until it died.

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        The “run government like a business” crowd gets to me. I’d like to see business run like a government. Owned and controlled by the workers.

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          It’s one of the dumbest perspectives I’ve heard that continues to irk me. Why the fuck would you want something that’s supposed to do X to do Y instead?

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        My mum last night on text.

        “We’ll see what shithead Trump retaliates with tomorrow. The only way to stop the maniac is with a bullet!”

        “Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?”

        “Trudeau is doing a great job!” (Referring to the presser)

        I’m glad I don’t have your family OP

        Edit - for the kids out there my mum is 74. She’s a baby boomer. Some of them are good people. They are not well off. I told my parents with the tariffs coming if they find themselves struggling to let me know because I will help in any way I can.

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        19 hours ago

        Does your uncle realize trump was able to bankrupt a casino? Where they can can almost literally print money. And not just one, but three of them. This man is literally one of the most inept businessmen I have ever seen.

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            This is the most accurate statement. There’s a reason why Trump wants Greenland, Canada, and Panama. Russia also wants all these. Wants free reign to move their boats and military through these areas and to be able to use the Panama Canal again.

            The more I see all the stuff going on here, the more I am coming to realize that the orange taintstainy is just a Putin muppet puppet.

            Everything this man does seems to appease Russia.

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        19 hours ago

        That’s the fallacy that I thought was learned back with Ross Perot. You don’t run a country like a business. It’s a government.

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          I’m pretty sure that people who say they want to “run the country like a business” just think it sounds good but haven’t put 2 braincells worth of thought into it. Businesses exist to make money. Government exists to serve citizens.

          Do you want firefighters showing up to your burning house and asking for a credit card before they put out the fire? Or maybe have the post office decide that it’s not profitable enough to service entire states? The whole idea is moronic.

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            And it’s dumb, because, in the end, where is all that profit supposed to go?

            The answer obviously is, to improve the country and the quality of life of its citizens, so we’re back to square one anyway

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            Also the USPS is too busy delivering papers full of ads and junk mail, rather than investigating mail theft.

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            I mean, America already charge their citizens for healthcare, so they’re not that far off from your hypothetical

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          How was it learned and when. Where I can lear more? Wikipedia didn’t have any clear answers

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            It wasn’t learned. He was a 3rd party presidential candidate that ran on being a business man not a politician. He came in third.

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        Do you tell him that Trump has filed for bankruptcy six times with his companies? What does that say about his business acumen? How often has your uncle filed for bankruptcy?

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          That doesn’t work. The hardcore Trump supporters think bankruptcy is a genius life hack to get out from having to repay debts.

          They actually believe it’s smart to borrow money, hide them in other businesses and personal accounts, then declare bankruptcy to keep the money. To the rest of the world, that’s called “embezzlement.”

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            Don’t forget the inflate the value of your assets so you can borrow even more money, but declare them as a lesser value on your taxes.

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        19 hours ago

        I’m up in the middle of nowhere Ontario in the north surrounded mostly by trees and lakes and not even remotely close to anything American … but yet I still have a few friends and family who love your dumb orange beanbag president.

        I don’t understand the pull that this idiot has on people or the millionaires and billionaires that pour their money into him for some god forsaken reason.

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          It is actually perfectly simple.

          Mr. Trump gives people easy answers to extremely complex problems, the fact that he is rich means that people just assume he is right about it.

          People want easy answers that don’t blame them, Trump has perfected the style of of talking where he is ambiguous enough that people fill in the blanks themselves.

          It is classic fascism speech.

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      I honestly think Putin is too busy throwing millions of young citizens into his meat grinder to give a shit about the USA at this point.

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        You would be surprised what people have time to think about while browsing their phone on the throne.

        If you think Ukraine consumes 100% of his thoughts then you are not giving puttin enough credit. He isn’t infamous because he is dumb, he is infamous because he is cunning, underhanded, and brutal in what he does.

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      Yes, it’s Putin who’s totally controlling trump and making him do tarrifs. After all, Putin leads hamas, putin did 9/11, putin killed millions in Iraq, Putin killed millions the middle east, Putin’s funding UAE and Israeli genocides against Sudan and Palestine How peaceful the world would be without Putin /s

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        mUH wHataBoUTiSm. I’m shocked this user is from .ml

        Shocked, I tell you.

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          How is this whataboutism? They only pointed out that the US has a long history of doing shitty things without being controlled by some foreign actor. It’s perfectly plausible that Trump is doing shitty things because he thinks he will personally gain something out of it, without anyone pulling his strings. He just doesn’t care if the rest of the country goes up in flames.

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          No he is dead on. The US has been shooting itself in the foot for decades in order to murder little brown kids.

          The only way your argument makes any sense is if Russia ordered Biden to commit genocide and throw the election. The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump. They are no smarter or better than the Republicans.

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            More wHataBoUTiSm from another .ml account.

            Again, just shocked. Tu quoque fallacy at its finest.

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            I didn’t want to believe it, but .world and Reddit powermod user overlap must be real high. They all are like a hivemind of “making fun of tankie” aka the liberal version of “woke”

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          Then the focus will be another, “world peace” to America to the west is when their elites can do whatever they could ever dream of at the cost of the entire earth, it’s people and animals exploited.

          Putin now, then Palestinans, then Panama, then Canadians, the gays, dei, muslims, socialist, leftist, woke, so on and so forth until everyone is dead but America gets all the toys they could ever play with. Your nation and your propaganda is a joke. Putin is awful, but he’s undeniably done less damage in this entire years as leader of Russia than America in 2 terms