I guess it made more interested. For instance, what else have they been doing that for? What if tankies were just ops designed to create leftist discord (and the people dumb enough to fall in with an op)? It’s made me very conspiratorial in regards to the reliability and consensus of anything on the Internet. I’m willing to be wrong about my different pet theories, but with how opaque all these privately owned platforms are and incentive of nations to control information, it’s hard not to be suspicious at this point.
I’ve had the exact same thoughts. Sadly, it’s like Russian media where the citizens can’t believe anything. They brought that propaganda shit to the UK, US, everywhere around election times to push the right and peel off the left. Fuck them all for destroying honest discourse and for fucking with democracies around the world. I’m pissed as hell because it’s working and we are collectively weak to it.
It’s not all one country doing it either, although they are one of the largest players. Intelligence networks and private citizens from multiple countries and backgrounds have bot farms and have bad actors sowing division online. I’ve noticed that IRL is nowhere near as polarizing as online is framed, even with the most staunch people on the extremes that I know.
What sucks is that all of what some of these bots and bad actors do all day every day is post their same tired points, in different threads and communities. It’s like playing whack-a-mole trying to respond to all of the misinformation. They want to exhaust the people trying to refute them and control the narrative by parroting the same debunked misinformation over and over again. They won’t even defend their points, but move onto some other thing for you to have to debunk.
I think the answer is to be a poster that sets the message from the start, not get caught in the weeds of their bad faith discussions, and pressing them for a change on failures of their argument rather than just defending your own points. They appear to have a stronger frame of view since they are always on the attack in arguments, flipping the script makes their arguments crumble since they can’t defend them.
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I guess it made more interested. For instance, what else have they been doing that for? What if tankies were just ops designed to create leftist discord (and the people dumb enough to fall in with an op)? It’s made me very conspiratorial in regards to the reliability and consensus of anything on the Internet. I’m willing to be wrong about my different pet theories, but with how opaque all these privately owned platforms are and incentive of nations to control information, it’s hard not to be suspicious at this point.
I’ve had the exact same thoughts. Sadly, it’s like Russian media where the citizens can’t believe anything. They brought that propaganda shit to the UK, US, everywhere around election times to push the right and peel off the left. Fuck them all for destroying honest discourse and for fucking with democracies around the world. I’m pissed as hell because it’s working and we are collectively weak to it.
It’s not all one country doing it either, although they are one of the largest players. Intelligence networks and private citizens from multiple countries and backgrounds have bot farms and have bad actors sowing division online. I’ve noticed that IRL is nowhere near as polarizing as online is framed, even with the most staunch people on the extremes that I know.
What sucks is that all of what some of these bots and bad actors do all day every day is post their same tired points, in different threads and communities. It’s like playing whack-a-mole trying to respond to all of the misinformation. They want to exhaust the people trying to refute them and control the narrative by parroting the same debunked misinformation over and over again. They won’t even defend their points, but move onto some other thing for you to have to debunk.
I think the answer is to be a poster that sets the message from the start, not get caught in the weeds of their bad faith discussions, and pressing them for a change on failures of their argument rather than just defending your own points. They appear to have a stronger frame of view since they are always on the attack in arguments, flipping the script makes their arguments crumble since they can’t defend them.