If things get censored you can never have a discussion about them and I think that’s bad.
You can’t argue with .ml people. They just want to praise their glorious mass murderer … I mean, leaders.
Which country do you live in where your leaders aren’t mass murderers?
I don’t praise my leaders though
What is rule 1?
Rule 1 is the lemmy.ml instance wide rule “officially” against bigotry, but unofficially and in practice, it’s their catchall Rule for any speech they don’t personally like i.e. speech critical of Russia/CCP/NK etc
You see, criticism of China = sinophobia = bigotry = rule 1. Easy.
It is precisely, exactly the same tactic as ‘any criticism of the actions of the Israeli government and/or Zionists that support them = you are a Jew hating antisemite.’
“Picking quarrels and provoking trouble”.
https://chinamediaproject.org/the_ccp_dictionary/picking-quarrels-and-provoking-trouble/
So basically chinese disorderly conduct
I got rule 1d for saying “BING CHILLING”
That was the entire comment.
BING CHILLING
I did a quick google search and all I got that it meant something like relaxing but somehow managed to be the next “ching chong”.
Does it have something to do with “bing” meaning “cold” or “ill” or something else (because the Roman characters are not telling the pitch) and chilling could be “chi ling” or is just chilling in cold or sth?
How does everything become a slur anyway? Someday I might pick up the phone and say “Hello”, just to be called offensive.
I still fail to find it offensive, but I guess that’s my fault for not finding stuff not offensive when people are not trying to be offensive.
Complains about communist censorship
Tankies censor them
Checks out
It’s an accusation framed as a question.
But ya. The banning has gotten out of hand.
A critical mass of precious ideologues? Seems unlikely. I actually think somebody is trying to split up lemmy.
Have you not been in the same world I have for the last decade or so?
I mean you got the “pointless conspiracy theory when behavior can be explained as humans being human” part down but…
We must be familiar with a different species of human. Normal people aren’t this touchy… and, I dunno, “tribal”.
I actually think somebody is trying to split up lemmy.
I doubt it
It’s it all political posting? Has anyone tried a similar post with a pro Russia slant?
How can anyone in good faith support the west?
/s ofc.
I did. On Reddit. And got banned. Now switched to Lemmy, because I thought that mods are normal here, but it seems that either Reddit mods caught up or Lemmy is Reddit in blue. Hope not so!
Lemmy isn’t a centrally controlled entity. Each instance has its own rules…
.ml for example is a Russian controlled propaganda instance. Even thinking something bad about China or Russia while browsing there is enough for a ban :p
Thanks for the hint and advice to be aware of potentially changing rules among Lemmy instances. At least there is the possibility to stay in an instance with lesser restrictions.
PS How can the mods in the .ml channel see what I think 😳
They can only see if your instance hasn’t defederated. There’s also lemmygrad and hexbear for increasing levels of auth commie lunacy.
-2 demerits
Well aside, I love indications that someone has never seen a word in writing. The visual equivalent of a bizarre pronunciation. English is full of these opportunities because it’s a creole gone feral. Occasionally you get it both ways, where people never connect appetizers called “ordervs” to a menu section titled “hors d’oeuvre.”
Literally!
Rule 1 strikes again.
Is “how can anyone support countries like these WTF?” really your idea of a fair question?
You’re a troll who got banned for trolling. You weren’t even creative with your trolling, just “hurr durr China bad”. Do something more productive with your time.
Firstly, if you’re going to just blanket defend tankies, the least you could do is pay attention, Im not OOP and this is MOWG not YPTB. MOWG is where anyone can and should post documentation of the tankies behavior, agenda pushing and biases. YPTB is where, by comm rules, only OP can post their issue.
Secondly, are you claiming OOP didn’t post something truthful? Was there something incorrect? Is Russia actually LGBTQ+ friendly?
Admins of .ml love to claim that they don’t censor like the “Reddit-like .world/.ee” instances, but this flys in the face of it. The mods of that comm didn’t even decide to remove that post, it was davel, an instance admin that’s not listed as a mod for that comm
Well at least the tiannemen square part is bullshit.
Care to elucidate? I’ve never seen any valid reasons to think it didn’t happen. The only thing I’ve seen is people trying to excuse that it was justified somehow, which is a preposterous concept.
From my understanding, its not a secret anymore that the western media came up with their own story about what happened. I dont expect you to believe me of course but I’d point you towards statements and articles from people who were there when it happened.
Here’s one from a WAPO journalist: https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
Edit to add: my favorite bit of propaganda is how most people think the tank man video ends with him being run over. It can be slightly tricky to find the full video though unless you are looking specifically for it.
They only like aljazeera when they’re reporting on palestine.
That one seems alright.
Some context without getting too detailed due to it being considered apologia here: the 38th and 27th armies almost fought each other during the events. The 38th wasn’t willing to use force, and the 27th was all too willing, which precipitated a chance of civil war being sparked when there appeared to be military backing the student protests, or seemingly refusing orders.
Unpacking the tension of 1989 protests is way more academically sensitive than a Lemmy thread in this community.
How does that tie into the claim that China suppresses calling it a massacre or act of violence “bullshit”?
Holy shit…… wait. People are actually trying to edit history and make believe that the events there never happened?
Or are you saying it’s bullshit because the massacre actually happened in a place called Tiananmen Square?
Jesus, the guy just asked a fair question and got banned. You know what it smells like? It smells like tankies shitting their pants and calling mommy for help.
Ive seen .ee mods ban people for just as little
OMW to spam world everyday with post like
How can you support US humhum they are very bad here’s a list of all bad things US has done in history and is currently doing.
I’m a very big human defender you see humhum I don’t understand how you can be an American citizen and still haven’t revolted it must mean than you support every bad things that has been done by US gov…
Are you seeing all these guys minimizing US action instead of revolting ?? They are not even caring to learn they bomb middle east for no reason I guess they all support bombing Yemen… omg US conception of human rights seems a bit barbaric, are there schools in USA ?
I dont support any of them, what I support is better social policies on all of the planet
Yes me too and anyone of good faith can admit the original post is not helping achieving that. It is doing the opposite, fueling useless clash created only to make people feel better about the place they live in cause it seems worse outside, and actually making them more dull and diligent because it seems worse outside.
Ok but then why do you not push back against the weirdos who call Russia and China “AES” and see them as aspirational.
Instead you’re here just going “why can’t we all be friends with the weird cultists who have and will kill all left wing movements by being cultists :)”
Because I don’t see them in my feed when scrolling, as I’m french myself and I have much more interessed in US and Europe getting their shit together rather than Russian/China because that is where I live and who influence me
Also they are not ‘weird cultist who are killing the left movement’, they are actually much more the left than the rest of Lemmy which is more centrist-conservative. And they are being marginalized which is pretty much the history of the left so nothing new going under the sun to this day
This is very true, comrade Hitler was very misunderstood and he was just trying to spread AENS (Actually existing national Socialism) to the rest of Europe.
As centrist you think left and right ultimately rejoin in the extreme, this is a very classic centrist way of seeing things so I’m pretty happy it confirm previous take :)
Which leftist policies do you appreciate in Russia?
As centrist you think left and right ultimately rejoin in the extreme
No, I just know that far right capitalist states are what they are.
It doesn’t matter if the guy leading it is fuhrer or chairman of the great infallible communist party.
-16 and what’s that? You’re not banned 😲
You’re defending the instance that said and supported “France deserves 1000 Charlie Hebdos?” From @jai.lai or whatever your french instance is called?
Ok, well have fun with that.
‘The instance that said’ Lmao just look at you
Their comment wasn’t banned, and comments that called them out were, the instance is complicit whether you like it or not.
Idk men isn’t banning opinion you dont like what you’re denouncing Lemmy.ml to do ? So you rlly admit it is just about the opinion you like and dont like ?
I’m sorry, please respond more coherently as to why you support someone saying “the french deserve 1000 mass shootings” not being banned and people saying “that’s fucked up french people are ok” being banned. I realize your first language is probably french, which makes your stance all the more confusing, so I’m not attempting to denigrate you for mistakes, but the above comment is near incomprehensible and to accurately respond I’d need to understand it.
I’m not really surprised considering you’re american I’m even amaze you know what France is. Saying France deserve Charlie Hebdo is 101 free speech and is legal to do long as long as what you say is not considered terrorism apology. So you could blame laxist security policies, politics decision or whatever on it. So let me reitterate with simpler word:
Opinion you considers bad and false != Disallowed opinion This is called free speech while OP spamming Lemmy.ml with low effort troll post is considered spamming.
Sure, but then so is saying “the french aren’t that bad.”
The part that is weird (and that I’m surprised a frenchman supports) is the part where wishing death on the french is not banned but saying “hey we shouldn’t be making death wishes against the french” in response to “more mass shootings in france please” is banned.
People already do that.
They’re not banned. You have to block them yourself.
If you want people to know what you are saying you need to take the shoe leather out of your mouth first.
