I appreciate his entitlement not being cowed to, but in some places, it’s illegal to not have a restroom available for customers, and I think that should be the case almost everywhere. Sooo many people with bowel-related disabilities out there. Although, I think the ADA requires that all businesses allow access to the restroom for somebody with a particular card saying they require access to it.
As someone who did suffer from a “bowel related disability” I appreciate that you are willing to take this stand.
I will however also add that in case of genuine emergency there was literally, and I assure you that I am using that word correctly, no force on earth that would prevent the inevitable from happening. The desperate determination with which I asserted that need proved sufficient, on at least one occasion, to gain me access to
an airplane toilet during taxi.
If a Starbucks employee denied me access to their toilet at a moment of genuine need they’d’ve ended up with a pile of very loose stool on their floor.
And that is exactly why some states have instituted these cards which are supposed to be able to show businesses that this person can use your restroom right now no matter what you feel about it.
A mass international chain operation like Starbucks definitely has a whole team whose job it is to know the local regulations and do the bare minimum to meet them, only going above and beyond if it’s cheaper (bigger building with an extra bathroom was lower rent).
E: lol why are you downvoting all these replies? I didn’t even say you were wrong about what you said, or that Starbucks isn’t being a dick by only doing the bare minimum. I just said Starbucks probably knows the law where that shop was. How about you take your mad little downvote finger and use it to campaign for better bare minimums?
“I read an anecdote. Let me run off on a giant tangent about my life that has nothing to do with the anecdote”.
I dont go to Portland anymore because there are no public restrooms. The private ones are guarded like knox. That’s mostly because of the staggering amount of homeless in Portland.
If I worked in Portland and a cop asked to use a restroom, I’d say no and lock eyes with him as I invited a homeless person to enjoy an open tap and a dignified twosie.
No public bathroom, just had an employee bathroom in the back.
He asked, and expected to use it, because he was a cop.
I appreciate his entitlement not being cowed to, but in some places, it’s illegal to not have a restroom available for customers, and I think that should be the case almost everywhere. Sooo many people with bowel-related disabilities out there. Although, I think the ADA requires that all businesses allow access to the restroom for somebody with a particular card saying they require access to it.
Looked it up and it’s not an ADA requirement but varies by state: https://www.crohnscolitisfoundation.org/get-involved/be-an-advocate/restroom-access
Edit: Wow, there are a lot more people who feel needlessly hurt by this than I expected.
As someone who did suffer from a “bowel related disability” I appreciate that you are willing to take this stand.
I will however also add that in case of genuine emergency there was literally, and I assure you that I am using that word correctly, no force on earth that would prevent the inevitable from happening. The desperate determination with which I asserted that need proved sufficient, on at least one occasion, to gain me access to an airplane toilet during taxi.
If a Starbucks employee denied me access to their toilet at a moment of genuine need they’d’ve ended up with a pile of very loose stool on their floor.
“Nice floor you have here, it would be a shame if something happened to it.”
And that is exactly why some states have instituted these cards which are supposed to be able to show businesses that this person can use your restroom right now no matter what you feel about it.
That’s nice.
I’ll be sure to mention it to the store manager from 20 years ago.
A mass international chain operation like Starbucks definitely has a whole team whose job it is to know the local regulations and do the bare minimum to meet them, only going above and beyond if it’s cheaper (bigger building with an extra bathroom was lower rent).
E: lol why are you downvoting all these replies? I didn’t even say you were wrong about what you said, or that Starbucks isn’t being a dick by only doing the bare minimum. I just said Starbucks probably knows the law where that shop was. How about you take your mad little downvote finger and use it to campaign for better bare minimums?
I’m mad at you because I want another human to shit themselves while I order coffee at Starbucks. /S
“I read an anecdote. Let me run off on a giant tangent about my life that has nothing to do with the anecdote”.
I dont go to Portland anymore because there are no public restrooms. The private ones are guarded like knox. That’s mostly because of the staggering amount of homeless in Portland.
If I worked in Portland and a cop asked to use a restroom, I’d say no and lock eyes with him as I invited a homeless person to enjoy an open tap and a dignified twosie.
It’s like that in Canada. Illegal for a buisness to not have a bathroom available for the public.
Oh you want to use the employee bathroom? Here, fill out this application, and we’ll get back with you in 6-8 weeks.