• plyth@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    That’s a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      21 hours ago

      Really dumb take, and simply not true. Plenty of bad people know they are doing wrong, and they do it anyway, because they want what they want, and they are going to get it. Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.

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        Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that’s why they try to hide it.

        That’s also not really true. They can very well believe, that what they do is okay but they know that the law says otherwise. They hide because they want to avoid punishment, not because they feel that what they do is wrong (From their point of view)

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        1 day ago

        Please elaborate.

        I think whoever does evil thinks of the wrong people as good. Most will simply reject everybody as bad who opposes them.

        So the sentiment is true but it doesn’t work as personal advice.

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          Hitler is an obvious example of someone who might have thought they are good and doing a good thing, but his death was celebrated by good people.

          Because being good is mostly an outside measurement and not an inside assessment by the person, therefore your point is nonsensical.

          By your point republicans celebrated the attack on Pelosi and her husband, those are not good people however you slice it.

          • plyth@feddit.org
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            So if Hitler’s grandma gave him that advice and he followed it, would he have done what he did?

            Good people celebrated his death, but the personal advice doesn’t work because we personally decide what is good. We distort goodness to what we need, which is fatal if we are on an evil path.

            It is not an objective, outside measurement, but it is sold as such, specifically because it makes good people do evil things for the good side.