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On one hand I agree with you, we are very, very far away from from implementing it. To the point where “hopeless ideal” is a fair description of communism.
But on the other, to me it seems clear that all of known history is in a way a path towards the ideals of communism. Marx clearly was on to something, it is not by chance that his ideas had an enormous impact on human history. A completely hopeless, “alien” ideal does not take the world by storm.
The 20th century attempts at implementing communism were a disastrous failure, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be further attempts (perhaps ones that build upon new knowledge and the mistakes of the past). This is even relevant considering the current rise of an oligarchical, corrupt techno-feudalist global regime.
Really? Because everything you’ve just said can be applied to Fascism, albeit by entirely different paths traveled.
Has Fascism not taken the world by storm? Is Fascism not entirely hopeless? I can argue just as easily that Fascism simply hasn’t ever been implemented correctly, despite us having seen its disastrous results numerous times.
Edit: I wouldn’t, mind you, but I can. I’m opposed to both Fascism and Communism.
That’s a very fair point.
That being said, I don’t think Marx would have approved of the attempts at implementing communism in the 20th century.
Plus, I would argue it’s fair to say Marx’s heart was in the right place, the same cannot be said of the foundational elements of fascism.
I am also opposed to communism as it was implemented, but I do think the goal for a stateless, classless society is worth considering (at least on philosophical level).