Either you went to a highly atypical drag show or a strip club without stripping. I think having a work-sponsored drag show is inappropriate and bit cringe, but it’s not more risqué than cabaret.
I have been to multiple drag shows and they were quite explicit. I would say they were slightly less explicit than a burlesque show, The costumes and performances were somewhat akin to a strip show, but without the nudity. One thing that stands out to me was a trans woman in very small underwear who obviously hadn’t had bottom surgery doing the sitting splits, there was definitely a wardrobe malfunction.
None of this really offended me, but I do wonder if the pushback from the right has to do with people seeing this type of drag show and not having anything else to compare it to.
Okay, replace “porn performances” with strippers. You don’t bring your whole company to a strip club. Or mandate that people go to such an event under threat/duress of being fired.
The sad part is, you know that this was the comparison… but instead you have to be obtuse about this and argue against it as if going to ANY sexually charged event is a norm in workplace cultures.
You clearly have no idea what actually goes on in a drag show and rather than accepting your opinion is misinformed your projecting your ignorance on other people
Right. If you can’t actually argue substance… but instead can only vaguely state “your ignorant”… Then I have a sad reality for you. You’re likely the one that’s wrong here.
You have no idea what my personal experiences were like. Nor if I’ve ever been to one or not.
What it appears is that you’ve never been to strip club before. Not ever girl shows everything. The performances can indeed be an exact 1:1 copy. And in both cases it’s still not proper for a business environment.
But you keep comparing drag shows and strip clubs. You’re holding a giant neon sign that says “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT” I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
No… that would be an opinion… You’re basing it on your own experiences. Not the facts of how all strip clubs or all drag shows operate. You know… Not “factually” at all.
Once again. I’ve literally seen the a similar performance in both situations. So now here we are. I say one thing. You say another. That’s why anecdotes are terrible. The difference here is I’m not claiming you’re factually incorrect, incorrectly.
Edit: And still you don’t address the fact that either case is not fit for a business meeting/outing.
Yeah, it’s totally right! I also opposed my company going horseback riding because its a 1:1 copie of what happen in those movies where people get railed by horses! And opposed a group outing to a church cuz it’s like in BDSM movies! (You have no idea what happen in drag events)
You think drag shows and porn “performances” are comparable?
I’ve been to a strip club and I’ve been to drag shows. They hold similar “performance.”
Your strip clubs don’t show boobs or genitals and focus on lip-syncing music and costumes? That’s a weird strip club.
Either you went to a highly atypical drag show or a strip club without stripping. I think having a work-sponsored drag show is inappropriate and bit cringe, but it’s not more risqué than cabaret.
Cabaret is blatantly inappropriate for work
Drag shows =/= cabaret.
I have been to multiple drag shows and they were quite explicit. I would say they were slightly less explicit than a burlesque show, The costumes and performances were somewhat akin to a strip show, but without the nudity. One thing that stands out to me was a trans woman in very small underwear who obviously hadn’t had bottom surgery doing the sitting splits, there was definitely a wardrobe malfunction.
None of this really offended me, but I do wonder if the pushback from the right has to do with people seeing this type of drag show and not having anything else to compare it to.
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Okay, replace “porn performances” with strippers. You don’t bring your whole company to a strip club. Or mandate that people go to such an event under threat/duress of being fired.
The sad part is, you know that this was the comparison… but instead you have to be obtuse about this and argue against it as if going to ANY sexually charged event is a norm in workplace cultures.
You clearly have no idea what actually goes on in a drag show and rather than accepting your opinion is misinformed your projecting your ignorance on other people
Right. If you can’t actually argue substance… but instead can only vaguely state “your ignorant”… Then I have a sad reality for you. You’re likely the one that’s wrong here.
You have no idea what my personal experiences were like. Nor if I’ve ever been to one or not.
What it appears is that you’ve never been to strip club before. Not ever girl shows everything. The performances can indeed be an exact 1:1 copy. And in both cases it’s still not proper for a business environment.
But you keep comparing drag shows and strip clubs. You’re holding a giant neon sign that says “I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT” I’ve personally been to both and to think for a second that they’re similar atmosphere is just factually wrong.
No… that would be an opinion… You’re basing it on your own experiences. Not the facts of how all strip clubs or all drag shows operate. You know… Not “factually” at all.
Once again. I’ve literally seen the a similar performance in both situations. So now here we are. I say one thing. You say another. That’s why anecdotes are terrible. The difference here is I’m not claiming you’re factually incorrect, incorrectly.
Edit: And still you don’t address the fact that either case is not fit for a business meeting/outing.
You seem to have a rather tenuous grasp on the difference between opinion and fact, yourself.
Yeah, it’s totally right! I also opposed my company going horseback riding because its a 1:1 copie of what happen in those movies where people get railed by horses! And opposed a group outing to a church cuz it’s like in BDSM movies! (You have no idea what happen in drag events)
You think drag shows and strippers are comparable?