Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?
If people stayed sharp, they would be kept down.
Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.
The DNC is far from perfect, but what they do is out of our control except in the ways I literally covered at the start of this chain.
I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.
Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?
we can’t know the alternative timeline where the democrats would have won; but if their past behaviour is any indication they would have acted over confident and let the republicans walk all over them as before
what we can do is look at the present and easily see that the fascist grab of power is basically complete and there is zero chance they will give up power (last time they literally led an insurrection to avoid giving up power)
Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.
I’m canadian but your are making my point, Americans are too gaslit, selfish and uninformed to even vote rationaly
I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.
do you think the magas would be this enboldened if any republican had been accountable?
we can’t know the alternative timeline where the democrats would have won; but if their past behaviour is any indication they would have acted over confident and let the republicans walk all over them as before
In what universe does this make any sense. The republicans wouldn’t have the political power to do that.
what we can do is look at the present and easily see that the fascist grab of power is basically complete and there is zero chance they will give up power
And until that happens, there is no point in try to get people not to participate.
I’m canadian but your are making my point, Americans are too gaslit, selfish and uninformed to even vote rationaly
And you only help that with your encouragement of voter apathy.
do you think the magas would be this enboldened if any republican had been accountable?
I’m not arguing against that, Im pointing out that its a constant fight, not one battle.
In what universe does this make any sense. The republicans wouldn’t have the political power to do that.
They had no legal power to block Obama’s SCOTUS nomination, yet they did. They had no legal power nor justification to claim trump’s reelection had been stolen, yet they forced an insurrection. trump currently does not have any legal power to do half the stuff he is gleefully doing.
You seem to think MAGAs act within the boundaries of the law… must be nice to be so innocent
And until that happens, there is no point in try to get people not to participate.
First of, I have ever said people should not vote. I am simply stating the fact that it will not be enough, not anymore.
Second, you keep the “until that happens” as if that make any sense… You are the one moving the goal post here to justify inaction. You do not want to sacrifice anything to get your country out of the hole you allow it to get… and news flash, once the power grab is complete (you are 98% there) there will be no option left… every minute you allow to pass doing fuck all, is a minute you are closer to having NO OPTIONS LEFT
And you only help that with your encouragement of voter apathy.
Read above… and try to make an effort this time
I’m not arguing against that, Im pointing out that its a constant fight, not one battle.
Yet your “strategy” here is to do nothing an wait 19 months to cast a ballot… where did I say it was one battle?
You seem to think MAGAs act within the boundaries of the law… must be nice to be so innocent
In no universe could anything I said be reasonably summarized as this. Its actually pretty ridiculous this is the conclusion you came to.
First of, I have ever said people should not vote.
Because implications don’t exist right?
I am simply stating the fact that it will not be enough, not anymore.
Which just encourages people not to vote if you’re saying it doesnt help.
Second, you keep the “until that happens” as if that make any sense… You are the one moving the goal post here to justify inaction.
Im sorry bud, what actions are there exactly that you’re so willing to step up to take?
As far as I understand it, any action that I’m advocating for is apparently justifying inaction, but actions further than that would mean you couldn’t be talking to me right now.
You do not want to sacrifice anything to get your country out of the hole you allow it to get… and news flash, once the power grab is complete (you are 98% there) there will be no option left… every minute you allow to pass doing fuck all, is a minute you are closer to having NO OPTIONS LEFT
Once again, what are you doing buddy?
Yet your “strategy” here is to do nothing an wait 19 months to cast a ballot… where did I say it was one battle?
You really like to imply a shit ton from nothing so that you can argue against strawmen dont you.
no, I’m referring about stopping fascism and protecting democracy and the rule of law
all else is secondary if everything is destroyed every other turn
Are you denying that if people had voted for the democrats just a few percent more this year project 2025 would not have been stopped, as trump likely would be dead when it came time for the next event?
If people stayed sharp, they would be kept down.
Of course the DNC could do more. The question is could you, the people, do any less to secure your democracy.
The DNC is far from perfect, but what they do is out of our control except in the ways I literally covered at the start of this chain.
I don’t get how people act like there should just be this sudden moment where once and for all fascists will disappear. It will and has always been a continuous fight.
we can’t know the alternative timeline where the democrats would have won; but if their past behaviour is any indication they would have acted over confident and let the republicans walk all over them as before
what we can do is look at the present and easily see that the fascist grab of power is basically complete and there is zero chance they will give up power (last time they literally led an insurrection to avoid giving up power)
I’m canadian but your are making my point, Americans are too gaslit, selfish and uninformed to even vote rationaly
do you think the magas would be this enboldened if any republican had been accountable?
In what universe does this make any sense. The republicans wouldn’t have the political power to do that.
And until that happens, there is no point in try to get people not to participate.
And you only help that with your encouragement of voter apathy.
I’m not arguing against that, Im pointing out that its a constant fight, not one battle.
They had no legal power to block Obama’s SCOTUS nomination, yet they did. They had no legal power nor justification to claim trump’s reelection had been stolen, yet they forced an insurrection. trump currently does not have any legal power to do half the stuff he is gleefully doing.
You seem to think MAGAs act within the boundaries of the law… must be nice to be so innocent
First of, I have ever said people should not vote. I am simply stating the fact that it will not be enough, not anymore.
Second, you keep the “until that happens” as if that make any sense… You are the one moving the goal post here to justify inaction. You do not want to sacrifice anything to get your country out of the hole you allow it to get… and news flash, once the power grab is complete (you are 98% there) there will be no option left… every minute you allow to pass doing fuck all, is a minute you are closer to having NO OPTIONS LEFT
Read above… and try to make an effort this time
Yet your “strategy” here is to do nothing an wait 19 months to cast a ballot… where did I say it was one battle?
Yup.
In no universe could anything I said be reasonably summarized as this. Its actually pretty ridiculous this is the conclusion you came to.
Because implications don’t exist right?
Which just encourages people not to vote if you’re saying it doesnt help.
Im sorry bud, what actions are there exactly that you’re so willing to step up to take?
As far as I understand it, any action that I’m advocating for is apparently justifying inaction, but actions further than that would mean you couldn’t be talking to me right now.
Once again, what are you doing buddy?
You really like to imply a shit ton from nothing so that you can argue against strawmen dont you.