Has anyone done this? Its a very proprietary program lol, so I can imagine that doesnt work.

But its powerful and my Uni supports it. I am fine with just following classes on Uni PCs and then learning QGis myself, but yeah…

Are there any tricks for running “modern”, maybe DRM infested Software?

Also, how I did it was always just running executables in existing Bottles, as I dont get having a new small OS for each app. But that doesnt seem to work that well in Bottles.

  • unomar@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’ll chime in to say their “Enterprise Linux” support is (or at least WAS in 2015) merely a wine wrapper. That said, I strongly dislike ESRI and would recommend any number of open source alternatives.

    • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yes they suck for sure. Its just better to use currently as I dont have to recreate everything, as we pretty much sit there and get a GUI training lol

  • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    ESRI, the Microsoft or Adobe of Cartography. It’s a shame that public authorities get convinced to pay double.

  • mr_rusty_shackleford@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’d bail on ArcGIS. It’s expensive and QGIS does everything you could possibly need to do without the price tag, or the windows dependency. If you know ArcGIS, Q will feel very familiar.

    • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Do you have links for alternative resources for data, overlays etc? And does all the coding stuff work similarly?

      Yes I hate this seminar. Its basically Microsoft/ArcGis advertising, so horrible

      • mr_rusty_shackleford@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        They have plug-ins for web tiles, and you can connect to the ArcGIS map services. It has a terminal, but I don’t use that function much. I generally do all data manipulation and prep using Python and postGIS, and use Q as a visualization and editing tool. But it has plugins for just about everything. Most of the data resources ESRI gives you is repackaged public data, so searching the internet will provide you with most of the layers you might need.

        • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Esri is such a piece of shit. The same as Komoot, but corporate. How can they make so much money by reusing loosely licensed FOSS stuff?

          I dont know, I think these projects made a big mistake using so loose licenses

    • Snowplow8861@lemmus.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Does it connect to the same arcgis BIM servers so I can work with my coworkers, in real architecture projects?

      • mr_rusty_shackleford@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t work in the architecture space, but a quick search gave me some guidance on how to integrate BIM models in QGIS. The 3D City Builder plug in might do what you need.

        • Snowplow8861@lemmus.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Mm, not quite, when say having 60+staff work in a single building model you need something that allows object locking so stag can work on part of a building and check it in and out.

          I’m not the architect, I’m the sysadmin that designs and builds the server/network infrastructure for a half dozen architecture firms, some which have over 300 architects spread around Australia, Europe, and south East Asia. That mostly means running up servers to host BIM and BIM cache servers, as well as maintaining PIM servers.

          To be honest I quizzed you because I honestly never heard of it and my life revolves around both revit and bim360, revit and revit self hosted bim servers, or archicad. Not that I do anything much in them, BIM managers generally administrate their own BIM instances and their teams. But some of the projects are in the billions of dollars that you’ll find on featured on the b1m YouTube channel.

          Id argue that while the architects themselves are by and far the largest cost, the largest IT cost is the modelling software. I’ve even had some people using unreal engine to do parts of their work now especially for customer facing flythrough demonstrations and city view with time of day and all that.

          So I’m pretty open minded to keeping my ears open to new software since I’m never sure what to expect. It would be interesting to see if it could ever be possible to do one of these megaprojects in open source. But my gut says it’s unlikely.

  • Gamma@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 year ago

    If you need to work with their FGDB format you can do that in newer versions of QGIS

  • centof@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Not sure what your use case is, but consider something like geojson.io if you can export the map data somehow. You might be able to do this from their interface or you might have to do browser network capturing to capture the requested data. It supports GeoJSON as well as KML, GPX, CSV, GTFS, TopoJSON formats.

    • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Qgis has Openstreetmaps data source, but I was thinking of custom community based layers like “all wildfires in 2023” etc

      • centof@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I see. With the link you should be able to query a geojson file that can then be imported into geojson.io. I used Query ‘GLOBALID IS NOT null’ to get the top 50 of 2000 results. That should give you a starting piont. The first link is just a way to query the data in this link

        I’m unfamilar with Qgis but I have been able to import layers into geojson.io before from arcGIS.

  • pathief@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    QGIS is a very nice piece of software, definitely worth checking out. Some of our geographers use Mapinfo (proprietary) but most use QGIS. Everyone hates ESRI.

    Some of your classes might require some ESRI plugins… I would check with your teachers if it’s okay to use QGIS, they will certainly know the answer to that question.

    • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I asked already and they said “use the Uni PCs but you can also do a presentation about QGIS”

    • _cnt0@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      1 year ago

      It looks like it’s “garbage” quality.

      To be fair, that’s also true when running natively under Windows.

  • rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    I tried this for the same reasons about ten years ago (college, free, etc) and found it to be essentially an insurmountable challenge. It’s a bummer since they support Linux in other ways.

    Maybe it is easier now.

    • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      True. Office 365 is key, Libreoffice with git is simply not existing, leave alone co working at the same time. Onlyoffice simply sucks, even though I am sure they do great work and its complex.

      Cryptpad is great, but not really necessary and thereby often slow.

            • Pantherina@feddit.deOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Ok so you dont like Richtext? Thats okay, but doesnt really matter. Fork it if you dont like it?

              Richtext will simply work better and faster, even though I understand it sucks for some things.

              Having encrypted data on a server and decrypt it in the browser is not useless. I dont think you are using the correct wording here, sounds a bit polemic to me.