• S_204@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Seems like Europe is turning against the Muslim community.

    As a Canadian I’m curious why this is happening and what people think could be done to make for a more welcoming transition. We also accepted quite a few middle eastern refugees over the past few years and I’m wondering if there are lessons to be learned.

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      11 months ago

      General problems being projected on foreigners, turning into racism.

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        11 months ago

        General problems are parents integrate well, children clamp on their parents identity and prefer that over the identity of their place of residence. And if you look at the statistics it’s not projected, it’s true (math doesn’t lie)

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          11 months ago

          While there might be some minor problems caused by immigrants or by people whose parents were immigrants 99% of the problems the right-wing parties claim are caused by immigrants are completely domestic issues (affordable rents, job losses, crime,…), caused by domestic policy about immigrants (e.g. complaining they are expensive when you literally don’t allow them to work) or just rely on people not understanding numbers and percentages (anything about replacement by immigrants).

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          11 months ago

          Huh. It may be because I’m not exactly neurotypical, but I am not only the child of immigrants, I came to the Americas as an 11 year old. (Ok so it’s the U.S, which also might skew things) I did NOT clamp onto my parents identity. I love being an American (right down to bitching about how bad it can be, and how much things need to change)

          My husband was born in Alabama with a Korean mother and also does not think of himself as anything other than American. Again, tho, he isn’t neurotypical. Hm.

          Got any of those statistics?

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          11 months ago

          That’s just BS (and bad statistics and malicious reading of statistics)

      • S_204@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        These don’t seem like general problems but I can see the racism bubbling up.

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      11 months ago

      Canada is extremely picky when it comes to refugees. And it has the choice to be picky, because crossing the sea from the Mid-East/North Africa to Canada is hard. Even refugees from South America need to travel through the US first. So in the end, Canada gets people who are relatively well-off and well-educated and who pose fewer problems integrating.

      Europe on the other hand is the natural route for Mid-East/North African refugees which due to the geographical closeness is available to a lot more people, including some from social segments below the middle class of their original country. And since the people coming to the EU tend to integrate worse, need more education and social services, there’s a tremendous opening for right-wing parties to swoop in and make claims. The EU also really needs to work on integration of new arrivals, even a country that pretends to be fairly open like Germany is partly really steeped in outmoded, hostile, demotivating processes and a mentality of not seeing refugees as people but as a burden to society.

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        11 months ago

        I would disagree that Germany has not been welcoming.

        The public opinion has just shifted after numerous incidents including rape, murder, terrorism in addition to the bad integration and clashing cultures.

        It is also obvious at this point that it’s not refuge but immigration we are looking at, which changes the entire deal a bit and makes the aforementioned problems look worse.