I’m responding to this specific comment. I agree that the argument Trump’s lawyers are attempting to make is incredibly stupid.
I’m responding to this specific comment. I agree that the argument Trump’s lawyers are attempting to make is incredibly stupid.
Yup, agreed
And I’m saying that’s exceedingly dumb
…overturning an election has nothing to do with free speech.
did you really think I meant to everyone?
Well, yeah. This is what happens when you use such broad vague statements like, “if it’s allowed then it’s acceptable”. Anyone could interpret that as meaning “acceptable” to the general public.
But okay, fine. So something being allowed means that it’s acceptable to the ones making the rules? Alright, let’s analyze that a bit then.
I’m going back to laws because you seem to have missed the point of why I brought them up in the first place. If Twitter’s rules determine what’s allowed on their site, then laws determine what’s allowed irl. And by your logic, they then must determine what’s acceptable.
Now, you’re allowed to talk racist shit in public. Does that mean that every lawmaker alive rn finds that acceptable?
You’re allowed to smoke weed in quite a few states now. Is every lawmaker guaranteed to be on board because it’s allowed now?
You can smoke cigarettes outdoors and in smoking areas. That’s perfectly allowed. You think every individual lawmaker finds smoking acceptable?
Things aren’t so binary. Even those that make the rules, whether that be for an individual website or an entire country, aren’t necessarily going to find what’s allowed to be acceptable to them.
But something being unacceptable doesn’t mean something should be disallowed.
And I’m saying that something being allowed doesn’t make it accepted. Unless… you think racist rants on Twitter are acceptable? After all, they’re allowed.
So either you think racist rants are acceptable, or you acknowledge that something being allowed doesn’t magically make everyone okay with it.
Yes, that’s why CP is banned. It being distributed and sold encourages the further making of it, thus leading to more instances of children being abused.
That’s literally what you’re doing by saying that anything unacceptable shouldn’t be allowed. Just because something is acceptable, that doesn’t mean it isn’t allowed. Because laws and morality aren’t always a perfect 1:1.
Because things aren’t so black and white. Something not being acceptable doesn’t always mean it should straight up be outlawed. That’s not how the world works. People do socially unacceptable shit all the time and aren’t violating any laws by doing them.
Yes it would be. That’s how free speech works. If you think blatantly racist rants are generally accepted, you’re delusional.
Either they agree or they don’t
That’s not at all what I’m saying. I’m actually saying the opposite. Whether anyone agrees with anyone else is entirely irrelevant to my point.
I’m saying that people are allowed to say whatever they want, and that them being allowed to do so doesn’t mean that what they’re saying is actually acceptable.
For example, someone can go on Twitter and have a full blown racist rant. They’re allowed to do that. But that doesn’t mean that what they did is acceptable.
You’re saying that if something is allowed, it must be acceptable. That it being allowed in the first place somehow implies an endorsement of the behavior. That’s pretty much the definition of black and white thinking.
Lmao what? Saying that people should be allowed to speak their minds isn’t the same as agreeing with everything everyone has to say.
Honestly, you assuming that it’s an “endorsement” speaks much more to your own issues than anything else. Maybe learn that life isn’t so binary - that things can be a little more nuanced.
I disagree. Something being allowed doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
I mean there are loads of bigoted comments all over Twitter and Facebook, and I wouldn’t call any of those “acceptable” despite technically being allowed.
Not a single person said it was “acceptable speech”.
That’s actually a perfect analogy. Don’t eat hotdogs you’ve found on the ground.
Exactly this. I think the real problem is that “infinite” is virtually impossible to comprehend, so people regularly misunderstand what it means and how it works.
What? No dude, I’m pretty sure its coming out tomorrow
Fair enough. If you ever give it another chance though, I promise it’s worth it. The way Eren progresses and where he ends up as a character is very, very rarely done in anime.
I’m also surprised you’d bring up Evangelion in a discussion of overused tropes. That’s another show that takes a pretty bizarre turn and ends up going places that few other shows ever even attempt to.
Oh, I figured the tropes you listed would be tropes that appear in aot. Considering this post and even our very discussion is about that specific show.
No worries man, it’s my bad. Seems like lots of people misunderstood so that’s on me for not being clearer.