forced to moderate against their will

How does one force unpaid jannies to keep working for free? Asking for a friend.

keep the sub open

Reddit wants content and clicks, ‘site engagement,’ which r/piracy provides. It couldn’t care less if you post John Oliver pix, the Unabomber manifesto, or plot cunning ploys to oust u/spez – 'long as you do it & do it on reddit.

pictures of sexy pirate john oliver

Why would sexy pirate john oliver pix in r/piracy bother reddit more than posts about piracy?

If u don’t fight for my right to scrool and upvoot reddits on my iPhone with Apollo, ur a far-right boot-licking troll bot

pretending they were community-moderated.

Unless you remember electing your mods, “community moderated” simply means “we don’t pay the jannies, they literally do it for free lol!” It was never about the “community” having a voice.

And it works, see /u/delcake’s comment.

They’re essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.

Reddit reserves all the rights to everything you post ("When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, etc., etc.), but you alone are responsible for it (“Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.”).

Not a lawyer, so not sure how enforceable reddit’s ToS is, but the TL;DR (as I read it) is “you’re responsible for everything you post; reddit owns it.”

double post, sorry

That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.

Of course not, from reddit’s ToS: "By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content." –https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021

you make the content

Post, you mean? I do.

moderate

Lolno, why would I mess with such a glorious, once-in-a-lifetime happening?

It never did, that’s the point. Ran at a loss from day one. Possible (likely?) the funding’s drying up, so might be a sink-or-swim moment for them.

piss off the mods and the users.

Indifferent to reddit, always assumed it was an ordinary, profit-driven business that happens to host some turboautist tech subs that i like; kinda annoyed by the jannies.

this won’t improve anything.

Dunno. In spez’s place, i’d probably anticipate the pushback & appease devs & jannies until plan B was firmly in place be more diplomatic. Then again, know nothing about running social media sites or taking them public.

Yeah, but what’s Reddit without mods and users?

Not much. OTOH, from the financial perspective, reddit is nothing now. In all its years of operation, it’s been relying on founding rounds to keep its head above water, yet to show a profit :\

But he can’t expect the mods and the users to stay

I doubt he does, hence this shitstorm

It’s my basic inalienable human right to scrool and upvoot my reddits with Apollo on my iPhone! Give it me now or I’ll run away you… you feudal Nazi!!1!

Some tendies before you go, Che?

undefined> If it is, should they?

Don’t go late stage capitalism on me now.

undefined> mods are bad, because they aren’t chosen democratically

Why do you think a guy who started/runs the company should be held to the same standards as its users? I open a cake shop, I get to make the rules, even though I’m not ‘democratically elected’ by my customers. The very idea that someone has to vote me in is hilarious to me. If, in my shop, I let you run a lemonade stand, you won’t have the same rights as I. How is this not obvious?

hypocrite

Literally founded the place; chosen by co-founders/people with stakes in the company to be their CEO. That’s how businesses work, OP, stop being silly.