Screenshots to Twitter aren’t allowed either. If an activist org “captures photos of animal abuse by some major company” (I’m assuming good faith that you’re actually vegan and not just concern trolling), then 1) that activist org shouldn’t be on a neo-Nazi cesspool like Twitter (let alone exclusively), and we shouldn’t be rewarding that behavior, and 2) every vegan here already knows about the horrors of the meat industry. Animal abuse is going on fucking literally everywhere; the vegans already know it and have seen mountains of traumatizing evidence, and if anyone not vegan can watch the documentary Dominion (2018) and not understand that abuse is happening and is bad, then photos from a random activist org on Twitter aren’t going to move the needle. Even if you successfully made the argument it would, there are thousands of credible images and videos of animal abuse to draw from outside of Twitter. While there’s merit to keeping track of ongoing abuse, the positives don’t even nearly outweigh the negatives of platforming neo-Nazis, let alone because the idea that this scenario would happen in the first place seems farfetched. What vegan activist orgs do you follow that aren’t already on another platform than Twitter? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Meanwhile, what the fuck is this second one? “Some evil org posts something clearly indicating that they’ve committed a crime” ??? Yeah, all those evil organizations going and documenting their own animal product-related crimes on Twitter, which is somehow not reported by any third-party news outlet. Nah, it’s gotta be a link to Twitter so we can expose all those evil orgs for their crimes they apparently blatantly publicize anyway and show everyone what’s up. This is why I said in the first paragraph I’m desperately trying to assume you’re not concern trolling, because this is the flimsiest, most contrived pretext for keeping a neo-Nazi platform I could possibly imagine.

If someone posts a screenshot of someone saying something on X, they should be temp banned unless they provide a link that authenticates their claim.

This is so disengaged with the rationale in the post that I legitimately don’t even understand what you’re saying. This isn’t about fighting mis/disinformation (although indirectly it is since Twitter is a cesspool of it); it’s about not harming our fellow man by normalizing and platforming neo-Nazism and other forms of bigotry. Temp banned for what? Nobody’s getting temp banned for posting Twitter stuff; their post/comment would be removed, they’d get a DM telling them about the rule, and then they could be temp-banned if they continue to do it multiple times thereafter knowing the rule exists.

Providing proof is not the same thing as supporting something

Name literally one instance where someone would want to reference Twitter for proof of anything and why this could plausibly be important enough to this community to warrant hegemonizing fascism. Again, I don’t even know what this comment is talking about.

we can link to xcancel or other twitter alt frontends

That only serves to legitimize Twitter as a hegemony. It’s the same exact problem just with a layer of misdirection. What we do as vegans is identify a problem causing harm to our fellow animal and refuse to participate in it, not come up with some up with some convoluted bullshit to soothe our cognitive dissonance that lets us pretend we’re boycotting when we aren’t.

My point being I see no reason why Kickstarter can’t be for kickstarting the rapid scaling of a free, available-to-all project when it can be for rampant, unadulterated scams. This is easily within the spirit if not the letter of Kickstarter, unlike the scams which fit the letter but not the spirit.

That’s my point: Kickstarter and IndieGoGo is filled with extraordinarily obvious scams, yet this person’s trying to act like there’a some sanctity to the semantics rather than the spirit of them.

Yeah, no, not at all. I’d feel intensely uncomfortable using Sup for anything when something like Signal exists. The network effect issue is the exact same on both platforms, so why am I going to take the most trusted communication application and protocol in the world and choose Sup which is the work of a single dev with no obvious background in cybersec, let alone the kind of math necessary to properly understand encryption?

Had a strong hunch you’d be onboard, veganpizza. lol

That toaster is what AI is. If it’s machine learning, it’s AI. If I make a toilet that uses a shitty-ass single-layer perceptron to decide when to flush, that’s an AI-powered toilet even if it’s a worthless piece of crap. You can be disenchanted with it as a gimmick all you want (I am too), but it falls under AI the same way it has since the 1950s. The marketing way of referring to things you just showed me entirely comports with the academic one provided what the label says is true.

Hey Aqua, no problem! I’m sorry I didn’t DM you; I didn’t know at the time that you were a moderator. I knew veganpizza and jerkface would approve of this (I’m like 99.99% sure), but I would’ve sent you a message asking your thoughts otherwise since I knew almost nothing about you.

ifunny.c🙂

Oh no, someone is tarnishing the sacred name of a kickstarter campaign by checks notes raising money to scale up a project that can benefit everyone (thus kickstarting the scaling effort) instead of selling a $250 plastic brick that generates far-infrared waves using no electricity in order to “stabilise” your car’s battery which you velcro the brick on top of (okay, that one was an IndieGoGo, but same difference).

Don’t get me wrong, the other moderators don’t have to take moderative action against this if they don’t see it as worth their time to enforce; I’ll be around for that. If it had been anything even somewhat more controversial, I would’ve DM’d them collectively, and I mentioned this hadn’t been run by the other mods in case this was an idea they wanted to scrap.

What I do know of the other moderators told me they’d be enthused about the idea: gredo and iGxC aren’t around anymore to my knowledge; veganpizza who’s been around longer than I have posted a video of Musk sieg heiling 10 hours ago; jerkface and I aren’t on good speaking terms after the incident with Beaver some months ago if you remember that, but one thing I’m entirely certain of is that they’re willing to take even drastic actions to speak truth to power; and Aqua I definitely should’ve DM’d since they and I don’t actually know each other yet. That last one is just plainly a fuck-up on my part since I didn’t realize there was a new moderator (moderation tools are very poor, including seemingly no proper notification of a new mod being added). Sorry, @Aqua@lemmy.vg.

Thanks for asking! I was waffling back and forth for a while about whether that was an “extra” step or if it’s functionally the same action as removing links, and I’m confident now that it’s the exact same ethical issues at play with no meaningful distinction in terms of the overall harm.

I was giving this some thought before you asked, which is why the post just specifies links. On Wikipedia, we have this understanding with deprecated sources like the Daily Mail that anything worthy of inclusion in an article will reasonably be covered in other actually reliable sources. I think basically any notable or newsworthy information about veganism can be found off of the Nazi platform. In the rare event it can’t, so be it; letting a neo-Nazi propaganda hub have a stranglehold on breaking news only perpetuates this problem, and it 1) advertises users to go there and 2) sends a message to users posting breaking news to Twitter/X that what they post there will still get signal-boosted off-site.

Thus, I’d say “no”.

What you’re saying expressly isn’t true. Academically, deep learning is considered a subset of machine learning is considered a subset of artificial intelligence.

• Deep learning is machine learning that makes use of deep neural networks.
• Machine learning is artificial intelligence which can perform tasks without explicit instructions by learning from a dataset and generalizing to other data.
• Artificial intelligence is simply trying to make a computer display some sort of intelligence that’s seen as human-like. For example, a perceptron is artificial intelligence because how could a computer possibly see like a human? Chess bots are artificial intelligence because it was thought that chess represented some sort of higher intelligence unique to humans. NPC actions in video games can be artificial intelligence because you’re simulating what another human might do.

Would you like the textbooks from 10 years ago on this exact subject that I’m referencing? The term AI hasn’t been co-opted; you might’ve simply been thinking of general artificial intelligence, because “pretty much any form of machine learning” has been called AI since the dawn of machine learning – because it is.

Ezio Auditore time traveled to an IKEA.

Wikipedia editor here; there’s some nuance. This article is listed as a Good Article, meaning it’s been reviewed by another (almost certainly) experienced editor for verifiability, prose and style, coverage, neutrality, stability, etc. This was attained in 2013, and especially for such a prominent article, slipping below those standards is a recipe to get GA status revoked. Presumably this note is summarizing a large portion of coverage by Wikipedia and thus a variety of sources. You want to read and cite all of the sources rather than Wikipedia in something like a research paper, but for just a community note, there’s really nothing wrong with this.

Word of mouth provided by pirates is still great for the AAA games industry, regardless of what they’ll tell you, and only helps perpetuate these bad practices you’re pirating to get away from. 99.9% of users are unwilling to pirate games, and thus when you reference them, say you played or enjoyed them, talk about pirating them, etc., it’s essentially just free advertising for those games to people who would in all likelihood just purchase them if they wanted them.

Meanwhile, playing indie games gives those devs some cash flow to keep developing and gives free, word of mouth advertising to other people through references, recommendations, etc. The more successful indie games with good practices are, the better the games industry as a whole. It’s not a zero-sum game, but there is some tradeoff involved.

Since I have zero trust in Gizmodo to accurately explain scientific articles, here’s the original.

Why pirate shitty AAA games when you can spend your time getting a better experience by supporting indie devs financially and in word of mouth?

“Here’s my angry, unpopular, barely coherent diatribe apropos of nothing about this large and diverse group of people definitely being angry and hostile.”