Tags eat into the 300 character limit. She had too much she wanted to say.

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It’s fine to not care about what other people think and engage with the other person in a discussion. Even then, there can still be value in our arguments for the other people on this website with us. Our discourse can be useful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFpK_r-jEXg

As far this Onion video, we should engage in the relentless pursuit of the truth regardless of other people’s opinions real or imagined. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be grateful when someone is arguing for equality.

The conversations we are having on this public comment section are of course public. This can be observed by the fact that people jump in at different points of the comment chains in this comment section. Not to mention the fact we are having a meta discussion about the discussions. Also, most instances have some form of voting in their default views. So the audience is real.

What I find to be the common misconception is that because we are having this discussion over an artificial medium that somehow cheapens the discourse. However, this is a real discussion with real people about a topic that affects real people.

A primary goal should be to educate people. There’s no reason why the discussion can’t be entertaining. Usually this shouldn’t be at anyone’s expense, however we shouldn’t tolerate intolerant people. The far-right have seen the internet as a serious means of communication and are using it as a way to spread their ideology to devastating effect. Making fun of these intolerant people is a necessary step to preventing the spread of disinformation. But making the argument on its own is great too.

I don’t have the time or the energy to reply to every incorrect take or argument I see on the internet. And I typically read more than I write. That’s probably true of most internet users. So I appreciate it when I see other people pushing back against intolerant ideologies. Especially in this case, where the bad faith was so explicitly apparent. No one person could fight back against the right-wing infosphere by themselves. Defeating intolerant ideologies and educating people is a group effort.

Is a rat’s tail like a monkey’s paw?

Also, I lost track of your username. I thought I was arguing with another person in this chain. So anyway, thanks again! =)

That’s prudish. It’s the 21st century. This is a beach in America and it’s fine.

https://i.insider.com/5773e4c8dd089531228b4d84?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

I want equality for all. You have to work so hard to try to fight that, it’s silly.

What you’re ranting about is what men do all the time all over the place, because it’s no big deal. It eventually will be that way for everyone.

However something tells me that it’s not a problem and most people do not care if it wasn’t ever even voted on.

No, actually people want equality. We’ve been fighting for it for centuries. We’ll be fighting for it as long as there are people who want to take it away.

Loud minority screams “I wanna go naked on the streets”

Men go topless all the time. The fact you need to bend over backwards here is an obvious demonstration that you are not arguing in good faith. @splendoruranium@infosec.pub, do you see what I mean?

“oh no I have to put my shirt on before going out, this is fascism”

More of the same. Really stunning to watch a person tie themselves into knots for the sake of inequality. Some people really do hate women.

Go to the beach and there go topless all you want. That’s what I do anyway. We collectively agreed that this is where it is fine to do so. Or on your property, you can walk even completely naked all you want.

Women should be allowed to go topless wherever men can. See how it’s trivial to describe when the goal is equality. It’s inequality that adds needless complexity.

Radical gender centrist

This really says it all. The word you’re looking for is misogynist.

You being horny isn’t a justification treat women as second class citizens. Grow up.

Because some people are not arguing in good faith. Sometimes it’s best to call them out on what they’re doing so people learn to recognize the behavior.

This comment section is not the first time this topic has been thought about and discussed.

Some of these users are unironically repeating rape cultural word for word and in this case with the add on of “I’m just asking questions”. Thanks for sticking it to them. =)

It is sexist because you’re treating them differently based on arbitrary cultural standards. Why are you pretending made up social constructs are real? We shouldn’t be consistently sexist. We should want equality for all.

Saying ‘women shouldn’t go around topless’ isn’t allowing society to function. It’s sexist and demonizes women’s bodies in a way that promotes violence against women. Deconstruct your society or don’t, but don’t be surprised when you end up in a death camp because you thought it was fine to give second class person status to half your population.

I posted this on the meta community. The mods and admins will see it.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25367982

Your comments are not federating properly to my instance, but I found the link. Thanks for sharing it, I enjoyed it immensely. =D

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Linebaugh points to the influential words of August Spies, one of the convicted men, who just before his execution cried out the famous words: “There will come a time when our silence will be more powerful than the voices you strangle today.”

That’s a powerful quote. I remember going to local May Day fairs and maybe celebrating it in elementary school. Those events definitely did not cover any of this fascinating history about worker’s rights.

Poor is not defined as those who have the least in the economic terms being discussed in this article. That’s why there is a poverty line to define what is meant by poor. The poverty line used by the government needs to be updated however.

If people had more than enough to get by then we wouldn’t considered them poor even if no one had less money than them. Having the least amount of money isn’t the issue. The issue is can a person acquire the goods and services they need to live. If not that’s a problem and we’ve been describing that problem as being poor.

Left Handed Morty

That’s why I said highly improbable. But if they became states it would be the end of Canadian politics. It would be all American politics at that point. edit: typo

Currently it seems like there is a highly improbable but mathematically possible outcome where the Conservatives and Bloc Québécois form a government. Canada gets to be the 51st state and Quebec gets to be the 52nd state. 💀

Let’s get that last seat! edit: typos

How long ago was that? If you did that to someone younger now, who hasn’t heard of it, they would probably believe you without asking if it was real. The fact Iran-Contra is real is neither here nor there. What’s changed is how people engage with conspiracy theories. We should want people to think critically and ask for evidence.

People already dismissed conspiracy theories in general. I’m old enough to remember a time when conspiracism was a fringe belief system back in the 90’s and 2000’s when I was a kid.

The right-wing infosphere has normalized conspiracism. Fox News got people to believe there was a conspiracy where there was none so the Republicans could enact the equivalent of a conspiracy in broad daylight. TDS, Trump derangement syndrome, is the go to accusation for the MAGA movement against their opposition. Calling people conspiracy theorists would probably cause a bit of cognitive dissonance for Republican voters.

Some conspiracies do exist, and those who are part of them ALWAYS deny them.

All kinds of people deny conspiracy theories usually because of the lack of evidence and attempts at grifting. Trump never denies involvement in Jan 6th, he mostly lies about the nature of the attack on the capital. He intentionally mischaracterizes the attack as peaceful despite the deaths.