A nuclear war definitely implies use of nuclear weapons on both sides. That was nuclear conquest, or nuclear terrorism.
Just slaughtering civilians in a country that was already willing to negotiate their surrender.
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A nuclear war definitely implies use of nuclear weapons on both sides. That was nuclear conquest, or nuclear terrorism.
Just slaughtering civilians in a country that was already willing to negotiate their surrender.
The people that lived in that region certainly didn’t think of themselves as British or Ottomans, and neither did the British or the Ottomans. That’s just colonialism.
This revisionist “Palestine isn’t real” nonsense is indistinguishable from the justification for the Holocaust. Jews were seen as parasites without their own nation-state, rootless cosmopolitans and not really people, and so they had to be exterminated. Now the fascists are coming for Palestinians, and with the same fucking justifications as always.
Stop spewing revisionist fascist history. This was the lie that was used to justify the Nakba and it’s the lie they’re using now to justify turning Gaza into a death camp.
So you created an example that doesn’t match on purpose?
Yes, many forms of racist oppression have either stayed the same or gotten worse, particularly the prison industrial complex and with police killings just replacing lynchings.
But are you telling me that Black boomers had it easy under segregation and Jim Crow?
That could apply to individuals, like you said, but you can’t apply it broadly like you can apply privileges to white men.
Furthermore, they’re doing the same thing today so that literally hasn’t even changed.
But defeating the civil rights movement was more about killing off the leaders.
Times were not overall easier for everyone under segregation. You’re just looking at history through a white lens.
Only white men, though. They, as a cohort, definitely had it easy like no one else. Particularly straight able-bodied Christians.
I’m right where I need to be.
Yeah, but then add a dozen or more generations. Not your grandma, your many times removed ancestor from before the printing press or some shit.
Your comment makes sweeping generalizations about boomers as if they all had it easy. I want to remind people that this really only applied to a select group of specially elevated boomers. A white man could have what you say, good fucking luck if you were a Black woman though.
Literally the same argument used to genocide the Native Americans.
I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
This thread is a circle jerk about how boomers had it easy. I just wanted to remind people that it was only the white ones that had it easy, and in particular, the able-bodied straight Christian men.
I believe that Black boomers didn’t have everything handed to them like white boomers, among other oppressed groups.
Times are easy or hard depending on who you are and your place in class society.
Even younger boomers had a decent chance of getting a job that you could raise a family with just a high school degree and older ones could be pretty successful.
Read this very carefully. Do you think this applied to Black people in 1960?
Not all boomers are white.
So we’re just supporting Israel starting a regional war huh?
I also consider the so-called state of Israel to be an example of colonization, because literally it took a bunch of European Jewish settlers to come down from Europe and drive out the indigenous population during the Nakba. It’s not just the settlements and outposts.
The settlements are colonial. Resistance against already existing settlements and settlers is decolonial. Preventing more settlements is anticolonial.
They’re both relevant in the Palestinian context, I just focused on decolonisation because it recognizes the already existing colonization. I guess it probably should be anticolonial/decolonial to recognize both.
It sure sounded like you were saying Palestine is not real.
Let me clarify too - many of the people called “Arabs” in Palestine were descended from Jews that converted to Islam, as well other Levantine and Semitic peoples in the region. It was actually only under the Ottomans that there was this distinction created between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews, before that many Palestinians can trace their families back to their Jewish roots.
Unfortunately Zionists continued this racist program to further segregate their home into ethnostates instead of forming a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy. Then they got a white European dominated UN to force a racist agreement onto the rest of Palestinians, which would give the best and most land to the Jews while kicking the rest of Palestinians out of their homes. Why the fuck would they agree to a colonial partition plan and let their land be taken from them?
There is no justification for ethnostates. Only a single multi-ethnic, multi-religious democracy from the river to the sea.