User pointed to a history of bad behaviour to counter the idea of “lets wait”. User suggested to learn from history and use that as a metric for decisions.
You just trolled your way into this and think consequentially you are ‘clever’. You are not.
The best argument I heard to defederate and have noting to do with Meta is this; this is the company that had/has a platform where hate, disinformation and lies have created a divide in society, several older generations were ‘socially engineered’ to start to think differently, more absolute and right wing. In short, Meta has a platform known for causing division amongst countrymen and families.
Pre-emptive nuking is what is needed, followed by some DDT thrown over it for good measure. This needs to stop. This is not a technical decision, this is a social one in order to try and save us from that shitshow FB/Zuck/Meta gave us.
Yes, the reasonable stance. Because that worked every time, all the time with commercial entities.
Moms for Hitler
Do get the name right please
The alternative realities allowed to exist in conservative or republican groups/communities.
I severely wish for this to not happen here. But I’m not naive, conservatives always follow and then start to destruct what others have created.
Is /r/conservative leaking into lemmy?
I get what you are saying but you cannot use that wording as the opposing side would focus on the crassness of your statement.
Smile, be friendly and call then Moms for Hitler. They will protest, be offended even. But you can back this up: “then why did they promote Hitler quotes on their frontpage? Moms for Hitler sounds fair if your group quotes the man.” There will be arguments about how this was a ‘mistake’. This is easily dismissed by finger-quoting gestures and saying “why yes, who amongst us here did not quote Hitler by accident at one point and then published it on the frontpage of the organisation, totally by <emphasise finger-quoting vigorously> ‘accident’”
You can see where this is going, it will be an utterly frustrating thing to combat this statement as it has truth in it.
So you keep calling them by that name and be sure to be polite and friendly, but just keep calling them Moms for Hitler, do not relent on this.
This vile and vicious group deserves the anguish and frustration.
What did you just achieve? Nothing really other then annoying and frustrating delusional people and make them seethe with anger and frustration.
I’ll take it…
Moms For Hitler
After all, they quote him on their frontpage so lets call them for what they truly are. These are not moms, they are hate machines.
Yep, true. I have all faith in the community to upend reddit in record speed. The awesomeness of the internet and it flowing where it will flow is just too good. Today someone pointed me to this proxy to transform an instance into a reddit UI.
https://lemmy.bolha.one/vlemmy.net/
(replace vlemmy.net with another instance to achieve the same)
This is why I like the internet so, so much. In the end, it will find a way :-)
So China is accepting Japan into their midst and getting all buddy-buddy?
How very Nanking of them…
China will never ever consider Japan as an equal or viable partner. Breaking the bond between West and Japan? Sure, they are all about that but being buddies and accepted into China? Never ever happening.
I agree. Had the same thought. Right now I think the influx will be tech savvy users fleeing reddit and have no big problems understanding Lemmy.
However, there will be (I hope!) a larger influx of ‘normal’ users wanting to check Lemmy out (my theory is that all the content creators are ending up here and the lurkers will start to follow content in the end) will have a hard time. Why bother them with instances or how you pick communities, how the fediverse works? Just allow people to sign-up, no forcing to choose server, one account only, deal with that login/create account when you end up on different servers, etc. Just make the initial access a smooth pane of glass. Later they can deep-dive in the tech if the so choose to. Just stop throwing tech into peoples faces, it really is as simple as that. Like someone else stated, if I drive a car I should not have knowledge about my engine, model/type of crankshaft, timing of the belt, etc. I have a garage for that sort of thing and I will not be bothered with details (unless I ask the mechanic of course).
I said this before and it seems that the ‘core’ or ‘old skool’ Lemmy users have issues with that, you should have to know the tech if you want to join.
I hope this will not be a typical open source/low level attitude of admins and tech savvy people where people are just lost in that tech maze. Whatever you need to run in the background, do whatever, just give me an alternative to reddit. This is not me speaking but I fear the average emigrating reddit user will want this simpleness. And why not give it to them, why force people to understand fediverse?
What has more value for them?
One gets you limited time to rile up your base and the other you can keep using without having to proof a damn thing. You do the math.