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31·1 hour agowhy’d you delete that clown, it was pretty funny
Russia has a nuclear deterrent. It doesn’t need a buffer state. This isn’t the 1890s.
A nuclear tipped missile can hit Moscow from Ukraine in under 5 minutes clown. If you think Russia would ever allow that, you’re even dumber than I thought. We also know that the US would never allow anything like this either, hence why the Cuban missile crisis happened.
Countries have a right to self determination.
Self determination is a funny way to describe having your democratically elected government overthrown in a violent western backed coup.
The number one driver of NATO expansion is Russian aggression.
LMFAO
I’m not the one making idiotic claims at odds with reality. You said Russian red lines have been crossed, it’s on you to link to official Russian statements outlining the red lines you claim have been crossed.
Talking about justifying things is just a way to do moralizing. The way to avoid conflicts is by developing understanding for the interests and concerns of different nations, and treating one another with respect. After the fall of USSR, the west decided that it can ignore Russia’s security concerns and keep pushing an aggressive military alliance onto Russian borders. That’s what caused the war.
Plenty of western experts have been warning about this for decades on end. This only became controversial to mention after the war started. Here’s what Chomsky has to say on the issue recently:
50 prominent foreign policy experts (former senators, military officers, diplomats, etc.) sent an open letter to Clinton outlining their opposition to NATO expansion back in 1997:
George Kennan, arguably America’s greatest ever foreign policy strategist, the architect of the U.S. cold war strategy warned that NATO expansion was a “tragic mistake” that ought to ultimately provoke a “bad reaction from Russia” back in 1998.
Jack F. Matlock Jr., US Ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987-1991, warning in 1997 that NATO expansion was “the most profound strategic blunder, [encouraging] a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat […] since the Soviet Union collapsed”
Even Gorbachev warned about this. All these experts were marginalized, silenced, and ignored. Yet, now people are trying to rewrite history and pretend that Russia attacked Ukraine out of the blue and completely unprovoked.
I did, but you just keep ignoring it. However, since you keep insisting I’ll link some more as was widely reported by western media. The fact that you keep pretending they don’t exist shows that you’re a liar.
- Let’s start with language laws as reported by HRW https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/19/new-language-requirement-raises-concerns-ukraine
- the ban of of political parties on the left https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/ukraine-suspends-11-political-parties-with-links-to-russia
- ban of independent media https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/world/europe/ukraine-press-freedom.html
- cancellation of elections
- use of banned weapons on civilians https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
- Ethnic cleansing in Donbas https://youtube.com/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs
And of course, then there are nazis running rampant in Ukraine including the highest levels of government
- Gravel Institute https://web.archive.org/web/20220329174945/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtOx6dW_0vU
- https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299383810_The_Separatist_War_in_Donbas_A_Violent_Break-up_of_Ukraine
- https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
- https://www.internationalmagz.com/articles/conversation-with-dmitri-kovalevich
Any non-russian sources for that claim?
Plenty, even Nuland has admitted this just recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc
Ukrainian negotiators confirmed it https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
Arestovich confirmed it it https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1975okx/ua_pov_arestovich_in_english_says_he_and_the_rest/
A member of the negotiating team confirming this https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/24/7430282/
The fact that you don’t know this shows what an utter ignoramus you are. I guess one has to be to ally himself with fascists.
And no, the war would not be over, you’d have guerilla war for decades. You understand nothing of Slavic mentality nor know nothing of the history of the region.
Both my parents were born in Ukraine you sad troll, I think I understand Slavic mentality perfectly well. Something ignorant nazi boot lickers such as yourself will never understand.
Any non-russian sources for that claim? And no, the war would not be over, you’d have guerilla war for decades.
There won’t be any guerrilla war for decades because all the fascists you love so much have gone to die on the front already or fled the country. At this point the fascist regime you support is reduced to kidnapping people off the street and gang pressing them to fight.
Finally, let me educate you a bit on Ukraine since you’re utterly clueless about it. It was cobbled together by USSR and eastern parts of Ukraine were part of Russia, and are inhabited by Russian speaking people who see themselves as Russian. Again, don’t take my word for it. We can take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:
here’s how the election in 2004 went:
this is the 2010 election:
As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:
Ukraine is not some homogeneous blob, but a large country with complex cultural and ethnic situations. Most people outside western parts of Ukraine never wanted this war, and they just want the war to end. The way this all ends is that everything except the nationalist rump state will be absorbed into Russia and then Europe will be left to deal with the remaining far right nationalist who will feel betrayed by you lot, and who have been making contacts with fascists all across Europe this whole time, sending them all the weapons that disappeared. Enjoy what’s coming to you.
The civil war in Ukraine started in 2014 after a violent coup sponsored by the west. Meanwhile, you can stop lying because Stoltenberg already let the cat out of the bag. NATO was in Ukraine since 2014
The other thing I will say is that the war didn’t start in February last year. The war started in 2014. And since 2014, NATO Allies have provided support to Ukraine, with training, with equipment, so the Ukrainian Armed Forces were much stronger in 2022, than they were in 2020, and 2014. And of course, that made a huge difference when President Putin decided to attack Ukraine.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_211698.htm
and the war started because NATO insisted on expanding into Ukraine
He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that. So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm
time to update your script and get some new talking points
Amazing counterpoint. Do feel free to take your valuable time away from licking Washington urinals to link to Russian statements about red lines that have been crossed.
very likely
Seattle is poor af though.
The only previous red line Russia actually outlined was Ukraine joining NATO, and when that line was crossed the war started. All these other “red lines” were made up by western propagandists and don’t actually come from Russia.
CPC is the Communist Party of China, that’s the official name of the party which people in the west insist on mispelling for some unknown reason.
Oh yeah very much agree there.
Imagine being this excited about moving the world closer to a nuclear holocaust. The west is a death cult.
Tomahawks was the ones discussed recently, however ATACMS can also carry nukes. So, not sure what facts you think aren’t straight lol.
You’re right, every free nation must unite against the plague of western imperialism.
Imagine not to be able to spell CPC correctly.
My dude, there are mountains of evidence for actual fascist policies in Ukraine. I literally linked you Poroshenko openly talking about doing ethnic cleansing. Absolutely hilarious you’d be trying to pull Jewish president bullshit when Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. Maybe at least try to update the talking points you’ve memorized.
Still even as high on propaganda bullshit as you are you have to admit that the war could’ve been over in the first two months if the west didn’t step in and stop negotiations. You scum are the ones actively doing everything you can to drag it out.
I can’t wait till the US bails you lot and then we’ll see how brave you all.
If this is true, this is an act of absolute insanity on the part of Biden admin. This would be an act of war from Russian perspective. Russians repeatedly stated that these weapons can only be operated by NATO personnel, and the use of these weapons would mean direct attack by NATO on Russia. Furthermore, since tomahawks can carry a nuclear pay load, the launches of these missiles will be viewed as a nuclear attack. Russians aren’t gonna wait and see whether a nuclear capable missile actually had a nuke payload or not before they respond.
He doesn’t care about what anybody in Ukraine things, the key part is to make sure he can be the next Guaido for the US. If he flees too soon then there’s going to be a new government formed without him and he becomes irrelevant. So, he’s going to wait till there’s a full on collapse to flee and claim to be government in exile.
Ukraine had NATO personnel and weapons in it since 2014, and NATO countries declared that Ukraine would get a formal invitation. That’s what led to the war as Stoltenberg has now publicly acknowledged.