I really worry about 2024. Between trump announcing “yup, we are gonna have a beer hall putsch” and Biden saying “Yeah, I’m a zionist and we need to 100% support israel”… It feels real bad man.
I’m going to vote for biden, make no mistake (because he’s still a better president than trump ever could be)… but dude seems to be doing everything possible to lose progressive votes. I’m really worried that trump ends up being president because of the disillusion from Biden’s centrism and Israel support.
It helps to remember that the US president will always support Israel. It doesn’t matter who is president. Unless we magically get someone like Bernie Sanders at some point, the US will always support Israel.
I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”
Edit: responded to the wrong comment, please ignore.
I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”
Not ironic at all, to anyone who actually paid attention to history. Genocide is genocide, regardless of the perpetrator. When Israel said “never again” what they apparently meant was “never again to us”.
I hope the Palestinians survive long enough to see a US president that doesn’t unconditionally support their genociders.
But, totally agree, Trump would either be identical or worse than Biden in terms of Israel. I just worry that “both sides are the same” in this regard is something that will disillusion voters.
I really worry about 2024. Between trump announcing “yup, we are gonna have a beer hall putsch” and Biden saying “Yeah, I’m a zionist and we need to 100% support israel”… It feels real bad man.
I’m going to vote for biden, make no mistake (because he’s still a better president than trump ever could be)… but dude seems to be doing everything possible to lose progressive votes. I’m really worried that trump ends up being president because of the disillusion from Biden’s centrism and Israel support.
It helps to remember that the US president will always support Israel. It doesn’t matter who is president. Unless we magically get someone like Bernie Sanders at some point, the US will always support Israel.
I think even Bernie would, but with a lot more criticality. Calling for a ceasefire, attaching conditions to aid, drawing red lines for US support.
I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”Edit: responded to the wrong comment, please ignore.
Ironic that the guy who actually lost close family in the holocaust is the one who doesn’t have his head up his ass about the Israeli government
I wouldn’t call that ironic, so much as a direct result of being descended from a Jewish family that lost people to The Holocaust. Pretty difficult for people to accuse him of being antisemitic, even with the “self hating Jew” stereotype. He’s literally the type of person who can say with authority, “you’re making your own people look bad, and we want nothing to do with this.”
Not ironic at all, to anyone who actually paid attention to history. Genocide is genocide, regardless of the perpetrator. When Israel said “never again” what they apparently meant was “never again to us”.
I hope the Palestinians survive long enough to see a US president that doesn’t unconditionally support their genociders.
But, totally agree, Trump would either be identical or worse than Biden in terms of Israel. I just worry that “both sides are the same” in this regard is something that will disillusion voters.