President Biden expressed the US’s ‘ironclad commitment to NATO’

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    1 year ago

    Considering she’s on multiple committees and was instrumental in putting McCarthy into place, I wouldn’t call her irrelevant.

    That said, this particular bill will go nowhere.

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        She should be irrelevant but unfortunaltey she’s a member of congress and has more power that 99.999% of people.

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        1 year ago

        Yet you’re here talking about her. She’s an actual traitor in a position of power. But sure she’s irrelevant.

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          So, please…. Explain to me what makes her relevant. And remember- relevant ≠ popular.

          The floor is yours.

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            Popularity is relevance in a democracy. She has influence over millions of people. She’s an elected federal official who sits on a bunch of committees in Congress. Her shitty opinions on things like the debt ceiling helped bring us to the brink of a financial crisis. How is that not relevant?

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              So I’m not allowed d to have the opinion that’s she’s irrelevant? She HAS to be relevant to me?

              Cool.

              Hey, if you don’t mind, I’m going to check with you from now on when it comes to these things since you speak directly for me on these matters.

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                Hey man what you’re missing is that “relevancy” for elected leaders is objective. Her votes and committee positions do, in fact, objectively matter regardless of how much you or I personally disregard her.

                You’re having an argument based around a misnterpretation of that concept

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              So I’m not allowed d to have the opinion that’s she’s irrelevant? She HAS to be relevant to me?

              Cool.

              Hey, if you don’t mind, I’m going to check with you from now on when it comes to these things since you speak directly for me on these matters.

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                So much hate… They are saying that she is relevant, you are saying that she isn’t without providing any proof then shielding your statement as an opinion after posting it.

                Come on

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                    Not everything is an opinion. I don’t know why people now days think they can argue anything by claiming it’s their opinion. She has more power and influence than the vast vast majority of Americans. Whether you want her to be relevant or not does not change the reality that she is relevant.

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          Because shes a fucking idiot with zero experience in her field and offers nothing to the forward progress of her country. In fact, her behavior is mostly anti-American.

          At worst, she’s a traitor to her country- at best…. She’s irrelevant.

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            Being an idiot and a traitor does not make someone irrelevant. Do you not know what irrelevant means? No one with real power is irrelevant because they can wield that power in a relevant way.

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              Do you know what irrelevant means? Because you’re arguing her popularity. I’m saying she irrelevant.

              She is an irrelevant human being. I’m not going to argue this.

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                Yes, I know what irrelevant means:

                “not connected with or relevant to something.”

                This has nothing to do with her popularity. This has to do with her power. She sits on committees. That is power. She can unseat McCarthy any time she pleases. That is power. Power makes you relevant. Always. You can be incredibly unpopular and still be relevant if you have power. See: lots of autocrats.

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                  At a certain point, you’re going to have to stop and ask yourself why you’re so butthurt over me calling her irrelevant. And then you’re going to need to process that information in such a way that you’ll be able to deal with whatever the answer happens to be in a healthy way.

                  I wish you the best of luck on that, but she remains irrelevant.

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                    I’m not “butthurt,” I’m just saying you can’t be irrelevant and have power. That makes no sense.

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                It really sounds like you might not know what irrelevant means.

                Saying she’s irrelevant implies nothing she does matters because it won’t have an effect on anyone. At the best, she shifts the Overton window, at worst she finds a way to get legislation through that strips the rights of millions of Americans.

                To say she’s irrelevant means that everyone should be able to ignore her indefinitely with no consequences, and we’re saying that’s simply not the case.

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                Lets you, me, and MTG go to D.C. and vote on legislation before Congress.

                Who gets to vote?

                Who is irrelevant there?