• iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org
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    5 months ago

    You understand that a lot of communication in that scenario can, at worst, lead to crucial misinformation about what’s going on and, at best, is unnecessary, don’t you?

    Obviously, these shootings happen, but the solution is not to arm each student with a cell phone, just as it sure as hell isn’t to arm each teacher with a firearm.

    The detrimental effects of cell phone usage in the classroom are well documented and plain as day if you just walk into a high school or middle school lesson. Even with highly engaging teachers and lessons, there are kids who slip through the cracks because nobody can compete with the newest fad app designed to melt a child’s brain and possibly drain their parent’s bank accounts.

    This move addresses a significant issue within our school system. Addressing gun violence in the US is a very complex issue that needs to be tackled through a lot of different fronts. Kids having smart phones in school will not address that issue.

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      Obviously, these shootings happen, but the solution is not to arm each student with a cell phone, just as it sure as hell isn’t to arm each teacher with a firearm.

      You’re right. The solution is fucking gun control. Not isolating those kids out of fear that they might give the cops misinformation and there won’t e a safe space to play flappy bird while children are being executed.

      So how about you shut the fuck up about how it is more important to isolate the kids than to protect them? Hmm?

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        I think flip/dumb phones are still allowed with most smartphone bans, are you suggesting this one is different?

        I think this is less about isolating kids than it is separating them from distracting and addictive apps.

        Also it creates a class distinction in schools - some kids don’t have them causing them to be socially isolated

        Personally I think the schools should be handing out locked down wifi phones to students without smart phones. But I don’t think any part of this is about isolating students.

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        Lol isolating kids? They’re at school… If someone needs to get information out, there are already channels of communication.

        Hope you have a better day.

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        The need for gun control in the US is absolutely dire from any and all perspectives of public health, from school shootings to suicide.

        The effect smart phones have had on our students is significant and must be addressed as many kids are not learning in the classroom.

        Both of these things are true. Both must be addressed.

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      5 months ago

      Would you allow the children to have a cell phone in school so they can say goodbye to their parents before they are shot to death? Seems a fair concession vs the apparent need to prevent the kids from spreading misinformation about a gunman roaming the school.

      • iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org
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        5 months ago

        What’s with the fetishization of school shootings in this thread?

        This whole argument is weird. Kids don’t need smart phones in school. Is your argument that we should let kids have smart phones so they can call their parents if there is ever a school shooting? Do you think every kid should be prepared for imminent death at all times in the classroom? What’s the actual argument?

        I’m stating that smart phones are a net negative to any learning environment and there are already effective modes of communication within schools.

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          5 months ago

          I was responding to the point being made that smartphones are a detriment during a school shooting due to students sharing misinformation.

      • laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        At that point, take your kids out of school if you’re that worried about them being able to say goodbye.

        During the 99.99999999% of the time the school isn’t being shot up, the goal is for the kids to learn. Even with as many school shootings as we have now, the odds of your kids being in one is still incredibly small. Way higher than it should be, but ensuring the kids are getting quality education is still the top priority on a day to day basis.