Credulous is the word.
Under the guise of objectivity he gives all fringe opinions equal significance.
Edit: here’s a good explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAQYI_hYp0
I’m okay with skeptical and verifying but he doesn’t challenge all his guests equally. I’m not saying he should be perfect, but there are some really far out ideas that need more questioning before I’m personally satisfied.
he is a cunt, literally lied about how he heard they are putting cat litter into classes so that kids eho identify as cats have somewhere to go, then when called out on it that it’s bullshit he just said it’s a joke or something.
the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn’t go everywhere
it’s covered in Some more News’ Moral panic video
the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn’t go everywhere
Do Americans not realize how fucked up their country sounds to the rest of us when they do this kind of shit instead of controlling you-know-what?
We absolutely do. Our country has been captured and held hostage by a small minority of selfish morons.
Gun control is tricky; studies that I’ve seen show that a large majority want “dune kind of gun control” but any discussion of what that entails starts to get less popular in a hurry.
I’ve found that many otherwise reasonable people get upset really quickly when the subject even gets brought up.
what is dune gun control
Holtzman shields. They only allow matter to pass when that matter is going slowly enough, making guns useless.
Dune gun control must be Leto’s peace!
They probably meant “some”.
Gun control is ineffective. The real issue plaguing the US is poverty and mental health. Just look to some of the areas with the most strict gun control laws, they’re also the areas with the highest gun violence statistics in the country. Chicago, New York, LA to name a few.
One of the reasons places like schools are targeted so often is because it’s a known soft target. Gun free zones are known to have less resistance to the scumbags and cowards that are doing these heinous acts. If they knew that every adult could potentially fight back and give as good as they get, I would expect there would be far fewer mass shootings. These people are cowards praying upon those who cannot resist, and even the threat of potential return fire is enough to deter most.
I’m not saying that we should force every teacher to become certified and carry, but it should be up to them whether they choose to fight for their students, and if they do they should have the same or better tools than the bad guys.
This. This is exactly what OP was talking about when they said we look crazy to the rest of the world.
LA probably has more laws about fishing from piers than Phoenix does too. Places with higher gun crime rates combat that with gun laws.
With his alt-right views, Joe Rogan has essentially become Rush Limbaugh with a traumatic brain injury.
I think you’re giving Limbaugh more credit than he deserves.
the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn’t go everywhere
I believe that as much as the original claim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools_hoax?wprov=sfla1
The only known official instance of cat litter being placed in school classrooms for potential use by students was in the late 2010s by the Jefferson County Public School District in Colorado, where the 1999 Columbine High School massacre took place. Some teachers were given “go buckets” that contained cat litter to be used as a toilet in an emergency lockdown situation, such as during a school shooting.
moral panics always have a core of truth in them maybe watch the video it’s really good, adresses the satanist panic etc.
Here is a video that went viral of a teacher explaianing the “bathroom bucket” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEEP2PfxYSQ If you search for a “Classroom Lockdown Bucket” you will get numerous results of websites selling a bucket filled with emergency supplies that can also be used as a toilet.
Only in America does a bucket need to be marketed as a place to take a shit when toilets aren’t available.
The stupidity of Americans is comical. Yet there’s pride in the ignorance. Astonishing.
I will also say it’s 2023, some things are past even being sceptical about.
If you bring on a flatearther you aren’t being sceptical, you’re a moron.
His show is entertainment first and foremost. That means glorifying stupid bullshit for the entertainment value of it.
Most hard science is boring. Most fringe theory thinking is dramatic and thrilling.
He has some alt-right ideas and opinions too, he just hides it well. I’ve seen the mask slip.
Hard science can be the most wonderful things you ever heard about. You merely need someone to explains it right.
Optimizing for truth sometimes creates something entertaining, but only by coincidence. I suppose you can say that the truth is entertaining specifically because it is the truth, but crazy stuff claims to be the truth too. Only someone who already knows the difference is going to appreciate the former more than the latter.
I would rather someone excitedly tell me about how gravitational lensing is usedto view a black hole over listening to some fuckwit go on about how there is an Ice wall around the flat earth patrolled by Navies to prevent the truth that Nasa faked Australia coming out.
Nasa faked Australia
As an Australian, this is wild and I want to know more.
Edit: Woah. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/australia-doesnt-exit-people-who-live-actors-paid-nasa-kurt-nielsen
Speak for yourself. Hard science isn’t boring to me.
Spot on
I guess this is why he is successful. Entertaining.
His mind’s so open his brain fell out
But it was so small nobody could find it
Nice diction.
Nice diction bro
I love that though. I want to hear these wack jobs talk. I don’t listen to get smarter, just like I don’t go to McDonalds for a fine cooked meal.
And that’s fine, if you understand that these are wack jobs who shouldn’t be taken seriously. Most of Rogan’s listeners definitely don’t
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Well, that’s just bullshit.
We’ve been seeing the destructive power of the media legitimizing unsupported ideas. Fox News, Info Wars, and other outlets are what led to things like January 6th. So seeing someone like Rogan, who has a giant fan base and a popular show that gives credence to wildly inaccurate information pisses off a lot of us. I complain about it because it makes me angry, not because doing so makes me feel superior.
Don’t listen to Joe Rogan because he platforms morons and so forth
Yeah if people go to a game show host/sports commentator for their political or scientific worldview that isn’t my problem.
It is your problem when they start using the views these dumbass hosts are spewing to elect fuckwits.
It is a problem for most of us who live in the US because those are the type of people who are now getting elected and bringing the country backwards.
He is a moron
I hope so, because the alternative is he knows what he’s doing which would be truly fucked up.
For many years he was the idiot’s intellectual.
I feel so dumb that i liked him a few weeks. Then i stumbled across that old ape Video where he shouts at an ape scientist because he thinks he knows better than her… It was so embarassing. He’s got a big ego
Can’t tell if you’re referring to Rogan or the Anon in the post?
Joe - of course! :D
If you told Joe that Apple own a warehouse full of genetically altered chickens that actually laid iPhones he’d stare at you, slack-jawed and wonder why this hasn’t been reported in the press. Just a fucking clown from his toes to his eyelashes.
How did you find out about the iChickens? That’s a trade secret.
ahem I think you’ll find they are called iHens, actually. Each one has been spliced with Jobs’ DNA, so instead of clucking they constantly say ‘boom’.
Is the part above his eyelashes something else or is it just clown top?
Pure, unfiltered and undiluted clown. It is so potent it acts like a reserve when the rest of the body needs to be replenished.
Joe is, in all actuality, a clown camel.
The apotheosis of what a dumb guy thinks a smart guy sounds like.
The manifested avatar of a crowd of drunk college kids having an uninformed debate.
The patron saint of mansplaining.
From my knowledge of them (which is sadly non-zero), I think Ben Shapiro fits the first description better.
my favorite Shabibo moment was when he had a “debate” with a famous Tory broadcaster in the UK and got dunked on so hard he called him a leftist.
He was promoting a book about how the left is quick to anger and intolerant at the time to boot, but of course his go to insult was to call someone a leftist.
So basically he hasn’t changed since he was on News Radio.
Nobody, not even dumb people, think Joe Rogan sounds like a smart guy. They think he sounds like a relatable (dumb) guy who talks to smart guys.
Nah he just a douche
Joe think you are wrong.
The problem with Rogan is that he doesn’t have the knowledge or qualifications to push back against people spewing bullshit on his show, and so he ends up essentially making fringe, pseudo-scientific ideas seem equal to the mainstream expert consensus view.
And the outspoken wrong on the show people are oftentimes cool and charismatic, so people trust them.
the problem with rogan is that he agrees with the worst people on his show. he doesn’t push back because he doesn’t want to. he peaked on news radio.
YAYUH! What we need is a ministry of truth to protect the public!
I stopped listening to his podcasts when I realised he doesn’t know the facts and spews what he believes are facts. I admire him to hold a conversation for as long as he does and keep it somewhat entertaining but beyond that it’s nothing more than pseudo science.
One of the best greentext explanations out there
They’re not wrong.
Nah they are wrong, Joe isn’t a dumb guy, he’s not doing what he’s doing because he’s some dumb meathead, he’s doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him.
Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he’s become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he’s just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones.
You’re reading way too much into it, his original stand up was never clever.
Who said it was clever? Joe didn’t do clever comedy Joe did angry and cynical observational and political comedy. I’m not trying to call him clever or smart at all, he just isn’t as dumb as the meathead everybody tries to make him out to be.
You said: “Joe isn’t a dumb guy”. So, he’s not dumb, or clever, he just is. Like a rock.
Why do you keep trying to put your words in my mouth? If that’s what I wanted to say I would have said it, but I didn’t. I get that you want me to see things how you want me to see things but I don’t, so how about just taking my words at face value?
Again, Joe isn’t dumb, he’s not being manipulated, and he absolutely knows who and what he’s inviting onto his show and what affect they will have both in the broader media and to his critics and fans, Joe is just being a greedy self serving fuckwad, and it’s working well for him so far.
You can underestimate your enemies on your own, but don’t try to force me to make the same mistake you’re making.
I just quoted you.
We disagree completely though, nothing about the way he presents himself suggests to me that this is calculated.
Clever isn’t intelligence, you can be average or smart and not clever. You can also be a bit dumb but also a bit clever. They are 2 qualities that can interact but are nonetheless separate.
They are synonyms, at least where I am (the UK): https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/intelligent
It wasn’t even good.
Haha holy shit, it’s wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It’s like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂
I’ve watched Joe’s old comedy and shows he’s been on (Opie and Anthony) and don’t remember anyone thinking he would be the next Carlin. Lewis Black and Jon Stewart I could see.
Louis CK is the most Carlin like imo. His bits on O&A were pure genius. Rogan’s comedy is garbage tier.
He’s not an idiot or anything, but he’s pretty ignorant about a lot of topics, particularly science. He’s quick on the uptake, but he isn’t good at understanding how things fit together
That’s fine, it’s a fantastic way to do interviews. It’s a stand-in for the audience - he says “I’m a dumb guy good at punching, so can you break it down really simple?” People that are sharp don’t feel patronized, and people that are actually dumb feel it’s much more approachable
The problem is somewhere along the way, Joe started believing people were there for him and not the guest, and he started doing more talking and less listening when he doesn’t agree with what’s being said (especially since he has some pretty bad takes)
he’s pretty ignorant about a lot of topics
Not that uncommon among standup comedians. Comics tend to view everything through the lens of “how can I get a joke out of this?” which is not a good mindset for trying to separate truth from bullshit. Even George Carlin said dumb shit from time to time.
People always think people they disagree with are more Machiavellian than they usually are.
Alex Jones is pushing it a bit but I get what you are saying
something something long something something hero, something something villain
We need to know though, how good is Joe with a bow on a horse?
Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe’s whole “we’ve never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla” take.
Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn’t too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it.
Joe is a thumb and you don’t really use your thumb in archery.
This is good shit
Casual racism about Eurasian people on 4chan? It’s more likely than you think.
Eurasian nomads were quite technically advanced, which is why they spent centuries wrecking Europe.
It’s just Horse Archers are very OP and it took the devs a long time to nerf em.
Not just horses - everything from the first fiat currency to the first widespread use of hand cannons and rapid communication networks. It’s often forgotten (or never learned) that the Yuan dynasty was a Mongol-led successor state to the Mongol empire.
That used to be true. He got sucked into the right wing echo chamber real though and he has getting worse as time goes on.
No; he’s just a credulous idiot.
Every post that hits /all/ from this comm is either misogyny or casual racism like this.
Yeah, that’s what I noticed about the 4chan-related subreddits, too. It’s basically all 4chan has to offer. “haha, we’re racist!” or equivalent.
Because that’s what people upvote after all. Rage always gets more engagement.
It’s not what “people” upvote, it’s what white people upvote, because they’re racists.
Well that’s rather ironic
Nah
Barbarian Khan
yes the culture that happens to adapt/improve/recruit tech, culture and people from all over the place is the ‘‘barbarian’’
I was always under the assumption that ‘barbarian’ was specifically the term Romans used to refer to any non Romans north of the empire?
Still, funny shitpost.
That’s the historical root of the term, but “barbaric” and “barbarian” also have long histories as diminutive due to colonialism.
I had thought it was specifically Greeks dunking on Syrian/Arabian because their language sounded like they were just saying, “Bar bar bar.”
Reading up a little more, it sounds more like it was their description of anyone who is not Greek.
North west of the empire.
