I’m still not gonna vote for her, but this is a good strategy, because most Mormons are more independent and liberal than people think. I wish more socialist parties would reach out because there is a lot of overlap between socialism and Mormonism.
Mormons really are a different breed of Republican, look how they strongly voted for an independent candidate in 2016 (at least in Utah). That said, the vast majority of those people drank the Trump koolaid and have now fallen in line. It’s sad really, they used to stand for something.
Unfortunatly, until voter and electoral college reforms are past, your choices are red team or blue team. The luxury of voting for who you prefer has been gone for decades. In order to get the policies you support passed you need to vote against the opposition.
I would have supported burnie for the last entire decade if I didnt feel I had to stand with the crowd against darth cheeto every time I go to the polls.
What are your congregations thoughts on other counting methods (Ranked choice / Instant run-off / other voting systems)?
I think OP means the part where both emphasize taking care of your community, since that can be done with or without religion. Some ideas are so good that many groups adopt them.
Religion has very flawed ideas regarding community, however. It always results in a hierarchical structure and works to exclude those who don’t abide by its values.
It is possible to be a good, selfless person and be religious, but I don’t think it’s possible to have religion without enabling power-grabbing, insular practices too.
You’re exactly right, friend. I don’t believe in all the Mormon religious stuff, but I like the culture, hard work ethic, health attitudes and ideas on education. I’m a proud Mormon socialist.
Not really. Socialism is a broad term with a lot of meanings. People often assume socialism requires antitheism because specific Communists venerated the state above all, and pointed to religion as a competing priority. Marxism was born in a context where the Church was seen as the ultimate authority. Monarchs and oligarchs claimed divinity as their reason to rule above all. Casting off classism meant defying thousands of years of faith-based indoctrination.
Today, most capitalist nations are ostensibly secular, or at least exist in cooperation with faith in a way that permits pluralism. Boundaries are strictly geographical, and cultural and ideological exchanges can occur between almost anyone almost anywhere. Governmental authority in most countries is no longer linked to religious faith, so socialist ideals do not necessarily need to contradict any particular religion. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.
I’m still not gonna vote for her, but this is a good strategy, because most Mormons are more independent and liberal than people think. I wish more socialist parties would reach out because there is a lot of overlap between socialism and Mormonism.
Source: I’m Mormon (actually we say LDS now).
Oh, your profile says you’re a Satanist, which is diametrically opposed to any form of Christianity. Hmm, weird.
People can believe in more than one thing at a time. :)
Yes, and when those things contradict each other entirely, we call that a mental illness
Oh yea, I almost forgot you were voting for Drump
I’m not voting for Trump tho.
A vote for third party in this country at this time with the current voting system is a vote for Trump. Similarly, a non-vote is a vote for Trump.
In effect “I’m not voting for Harris” == “I’m voting for Trump”
Just go join your Trumpet friends on Truth Social already
But I’m not voting for Trump. I’ll stay right here and keep posting. Thanks!
Lol whatever you say, Trumpet
Mormons really are a different breed of Republican, look how they strongly voted for an independent candidate in 2016 (at least in Utah). That said, the vast majority of those people drank the Trump koolaid and have now fallen in line. It’s sad really, they used to stand for something.
All the Mormons I personaly knwo are still very independent and don’t like Trump. But I’m sure that is based on region.
Are they also somehow simultaneous fake Satanists?
So you’re just not going to vote?
I’m voting third party. I’ve voted in every election since 1988.
Unfortunatly, until voter and electoral college reforms are past, your choices are red team or blue team. The luxury of voting for who you prefer has been gone for decades. In order to get the policies you support passed you need to vote against the opposition.
I would have supported burnie for the last entire decade if I didnt feel I had to stand with the crowd against darth cheeto every time I go to the polls.
What are your congregations thoughts on other counting methods (Ranked choice / Instant run-off / other voting systems)?
Not my choice. I am voting third party and proudly.
You’re ok with me losing my rights then, and for that I sincerely resent you.
You’re Mormon and you call yourself a socialist?
Socialism is the antithesis of religion.
They also claim to be a Satanist. Anything is possible if you lie hard enough!
And why would I lie about that? I forget…
You can’t be a Mormon and a Satanist at the same time, quite obviously
What made you suddenly decide to unblock me btw?
Early Mormon teachings included giving up all your property to the community. Maybe they took that to heart?
Actually lotsa Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.
Actually Mormon causes overlap a lot of socialist causes. Not every Mormon is a conservative.
I think OP means the part where both emphasize taking care of your community, since that can be done with or without religion. Some ideas are so good that many groups adopt them.
Religion has very flawed ideas regarding community, however. It always results in a hierarchical structure and works to exclude those who don’t abide by its values.
It is possible to be a good, selfless person and be religious, but I don’t think it’s possible to have religion without enabling power-grabbing, insular practices too.
You’re exactly right, friend. I don’t believe in all the Mormon religious stuff, but I like the culture, hard work ethic, health attitudes and ideas on education. I’m a proud Mormon socialist.
Not really. Socialism is a broad term with a lot of meanings. People often assume socialism requires antitheism because specific Communists venerated the state above all, and pointed to religion as a competing priority. Marxism was born in a context where the Church was seen as the ultimate authority. Monarchs and oligarchs claimed divinity as their reason to rule above all. Casting off classism meant defying thousands of years of faith-based indoctrination.
Today, most capitalist nations are ostensibly secular, or at least exist in cooperation with faith in a way that permits pluralism. Boundaries are strictly geographical, and cultural and ideological exchanges can occur between almost anyone almost anywhere. Governmental authority in most countries is no longer linked to religious faith, so socialist ideals do not necessarily need to contradict any particular religion. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.
Great post!
We already know
Yay!