• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    You realize that also means they got to suffer until those improvements happened? And then, of course, ending Jim Crow didn’t really fix everything. For Black boomers things got a little better for a while and then got worse again.

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      2 months ago

      so it would be better to suffer and not to improve. As bad as jim crow was getting out of it was a good thing and going back to it is not a good thing.

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        2 months ago

        Zero clue how you got this from my comment??? Ending Jim Crow was good, but claiming that Black boomers had it easy is fucked.

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          2 months ago

          they did not have it easy they just lived in a better time when things were getting better. Right now we are coasting on things from that period and before and much has been reveresed.

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            2 months ago

            If you live during a time when things get better that, by definition, means you also lived during a time when things used to be worse.

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              2 months ago

              exactly and that is the point is things used to be better. again the change was in the 80’s but they really did not degrade enough as started being felt more in the new millenium.

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                2 months ago

                Incarceration rates started skyrocketing in the 70s and only got worse from there. Did you forget about the war on drugs and who the primary victims were?

                The meme is that boomers had it easy. Black boomers objectively didn’t. Black people have never had it easy in this country.

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                  2 months ago

                  war on drugs. that is one of the eighties backsteps. doubling down on the bs. Where do you get the easy. its a question of relative direction and quality of the times. if you say never then you are saying whats happeing now a days is just fine. its all the same. again its driection. the voting rights act was from 1965 but the 2013ish gutting of it is showing up now in many of those states that were limited by it and they are now making last minute laws right before elections to curtail peoples right to vote. its not a good situation. its going backwards.

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                    2 months ago

                    It started in 1971 under Nixon. The guy who said "You start out in 1954 by saying, “Ngger, ngger, ngger.” By 1968 you can’t say “ngger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Ngger, ngger.”