• Happywop@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes the free Palestine crowd…lol wait until they see what Israel will do with no US restraint demands.

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      Of course they are! The non-voters and 3rd party voters did exactly what they said they’d do to free Palestine and now It’s all flowers and hugs as far as the eye can see over there!

      Don’t mind the big sign in right in the center of their city that reads “Future Site of Giant Crater”, that’s nothing at all to worry about. Just focus on all the hugs!

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      If Kamala lost the election because she wasn’t in support of Palestine then why didn’t she just support Palestine?

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    When you lose an election this badly, people are clearly not buying you’re selling.

    But damn I did not expect so many people to sit out against the guy who did the coup and amongst all the other shit. If there is any light ahead, I think it’s that this L forces the Democratic Party to lean back left with their campaign promises, and whatever power they have left to affect policy.

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      If there is any light ahead, I think it’s that this L forces the Democratic Party to lean back left with their campaign promises, and whatever power they have left to affect policy.

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      They are fucking incapable of learning this.

      Bernie polled great against Trump but they snubbed him for Hillary and we lost because of it.

      The only reason Biden won was because he wasn’t Trump and we were tired of him at that point.

      Kamala had a chance to swing a little more left but continued to try to court moderate conservatives and the suburbs instead.

      They just can’t get it through their heads that: Trump and maga are winning as a reaction of “fuck the system”. This mostly stems from corporations and the filthy rich not being taxed enough and us not spending enough on social programs. That energy could have been captured and utilized by running a leftist.

      But instead we get milquetoast business as usual bullshit

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      I think it’s that this L forces the Democratic Party to lean back left with their campaign promises, and whatever power they have left to affect policy.

      Yeah, that’s what everyone thought after 2016 as well.

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    “If liberals are so fucking smart why do they lose so goddamn always?”

    • Will McAvoy “The Newsroom”

    I don’t think it’s fair to blame voters when it’s the politician’s job during s campaign to convince people they’re worth voting for.

    Adopting unpopular centrist policies and aligning more and more with centrist Biden’s policies as the campaign went on is just going to fill voters with apathy.

    The Democrats, once again, didn’t give us a candidate to vote for, only one to vote against. And I think the American people are sick of that carrot-stick routine, the Dems need to actually adopt popular policies.

    And the establishment Dems are going to fight that tooth and nail.

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    Not sure if this is legit but a coworker said 20 million Democrats didn’t vote. That’s depressing knowing if they had voted Dem, Kamala most likely would’ve won.

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      It’s close to that. Another metric is 15 million fewer people voted Kamala than Biden last election. Trumps numbers stayed the same.

      15 million people just fucking gave up.

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        Trump’s numbers didn’t stay the same. Despite winning the popular vote, Donald trump had 2 million less voters than in 2020. That’s a hefty chunk.

        It just doesn’t matter, because 15 million other voters also didn’t show up.

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    Yes, a Very Special Thanks to the morally pure angels who refused to vote for Kamala Harris because they were standing on high ground about some issue they disliked her on. Well done, fuckheads.

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        It really was (or at least the Democratic party’s fault). If you take every single third party voter, assign them to Kamala, she still loses.

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          The real problem here is that people needed to be convinced that voting was worth it when Trump was a candidate. How the fuck do you even reach someone with such a pathetic lack of concern for the world? Seriously you people think if she vowed to stop Israel, magically these dip shit knuckle dragging morons would’ve jumped at the chance to vote for her. Millions of people told us they give zero fucks. And fuck them for that.

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    Looks like fairly close to the same amount v9ted this election (at least in my state) as the 2020 election. Maybe slightly higher.

    Lotta people are blaming the dnc for the L. I blame them for forcing Hillary in 2016, but this go around? No. Neither candidate in 2024 was a great pick, but Harris was still clearly a better choice to run the country, and anyone could find that with a touch of research. Even passively.

    This time around it’s because the majority of Americans are uneducated, short sighted, idiots. They voted in a senile 80 year old republican felon, while every one who worked under him in 2016 said not to vote for him, economists said not to vote for him, and everyone else but Putin across the globe screamed not to vote for him.

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      In 2020
      Biden: 81.2 million
      Trump: 74.2 million

      In 2024 so far
      Harris: 67.0
      Trump: 71.9

      Trump got about the same amount of votes. Dems lost 14 million votes.

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        Youch. I really thought the left would feel more pressed to actually vote this time, even more than in 2020. Screw this country. There was no reason for them to not go vote. People suck.

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      But the media conglomerates are cheering. Just think how many clicks they will get now when rapey orange says something colossally stoopid.

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      Didn’t you hear? All Palestinians got a personal check for $1 million straight from trump himself.

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          Lying is cheap, especially when the media just repeats your rallies without issue.

          The moment trump got free press in 2016 was the worst point. They could have ignored him and we would have been doing Clinton vs Cruz.

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            Truth is literally free…

            He got press because Clinton wanted it that way and he was the candidate, you can’t just not cover them.

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              He wasn’t always the nomation. It should have been:

              “Wow Trump is trying to run. Weird. Anyways, moving on.”

              You look at all the people giving “commentary” as they play his full speeches of racism and go “lol no one will listen to that”. When clearly a lot of networks covering an (at the time) niche candidate gave him more attention.

              Also, lying is cheap. Investigating the truth costs time and labor. I can just say “The president is actually always mind controlled by Jews who are actually aliens” and it will take reasonable people longer to explain why that’s stupid, or look into why someone says it.

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      to be fair, the other candidate only had a few months. Biden is largely to blame.

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    Utterly bizarre. I expected Trump might squeak out an electoral win, but the popular vote as well? Thanks everyone who stayed the fuck home. You sat by as fascism was ushered in to the US.

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      Same. I’m not sure if I’m more… “Ok” with this? We should still abolish the electoral college, but we were shafted by the American people this time (and the propaganda machine making things worse). It’s the first time since I turned 18 that the GOP actually won the popular vote… Sigh

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        Abolishing the electoral college would require a constitutional amendment, and isn’t even necessary. Passing the National Popular Vote law in a few more states will guarantee that the electoral college always follows the national popular vote. This law has already been passed by 17 states + DC, with a total of 209 electoral votes - already 3/4 of the way there, only 61 more votes needed. Go to the site to see if it already passed in your state.

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            Now project 25 will swing into action. Then queue all those impacted who voted for the arsewipe to gasp “but he’s hurting the wrong people!”

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          I heard about that, I just don’t know who else can join the coalition. It might be easier to do it as an amendment if there a massive shift in power over the next decade (and I shudder to think what that’d be that was so upsetting or so lethal that the entire landscape changes to Dems having a super majority).

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            The NPV only needs states with 61 more electoral votes. In 7 states totaling 74 votes it has already passed half their legislatures (state house or senate but not both). So it’s actually a lot closer than starting from scratch with a constitutional amendment, which would need approval from 3/4 of all states.

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                I don’t remember offhand but if you are interested the site I linked lists the 17 states where it has passed, and the 7 states where it has passed half of their legislature.

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      All votes are not counted yet. There’s still a chance he won’t get the popular vote. A tiny chance, but still a chance…

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        There’s a bigger likelyhood Harris wins the electoral college than the popular vote, but both are pretty unlikely.