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    7 days ago

    I’m being critical of eligible citizens who chose not to vote.

    That’s not what your overgeneralising comment suggests.

    Excellent job modeling both gaslighting and a strawman in the same pointless criticism, btw.

    I’m not sure you know what these terms mean.

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      Fair point. I’ve edited my initial comment to address abstainers.

      As for my grasp on vocabulary:

      gaslighting: to psychologically manipulate (someone) usually over time so that the victim experiences doubts about their own emotional or mental stability

      Exhibited in your suggestion that conformation bias is clouding my ability to read.

      strawman: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.

      Demonstrated by your argument redirecting the focus to those who are ineligible to vote.

      Ready to try again? Although you may have a better chance of convincing someone less literate.

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        Exhibited in your suggestion that conformation bias is clouding my ability to read.

        Sorry, that’s not gaslighting. I was suggesting that your confirmation bias makes you cherrypick non-voters among all the people criticizing the Dems. It’s simply absurd to claim that only abstainers criticize the Dems. I did not try to manipulate you.

        Demonstrated by your argument redirecting the focus to those who are ineligible to vote.

        You said that “those who didn’t vote shouldn’t be allowed to complain”. I felt included, since I didn’t -ote, but I’m not a US citizen. Refusing to steelman your point does not equal strawmanning.

        Ready to try again? Although, you may have a better chance of convincing someone less literate.

        I’m trembling, when thinking of your literacy. /s 🙄

        Stop telling me how great your farts smell.

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          I see. So you believe it’s not manipulative to attempt to discredit another’s opinion by repeatedly distracting from their point using well-known bad arguments, all without supporting your own opinion?

          It’s no wonder Trump won.

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            “I’m not a US citizen”

            This appears to apply to a LOT of people who’re making the tired “democrats suck for losing” comments. It kinda boggles my mind.

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              Right? When I talked with my English, German, and Australian friends they all blamed the voters immediately. “What the fuck are they thinking?!?” was the response.

              It’s not like the DNC manipulated or obfuscated Harris’s message the way they did Bernie’s in 2016.

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              When did I say something like that?

              Sincethe whole world is dependant on the american empire in some form or another, it’s pretty wild to prohibit non-US citizens to have an opinion on the US election.

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            Now that’s what I call a strawman!

            Edit: … wait, actually, it’s not. Your “argument” doesn’t even parse.

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                Lol… ok, Mr./Mrs. “Telling me I’m cherry-picking information and succeptible to confirmation bias (like everyone else is) is literally gaslighting”. /s

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                  Yup. By your third comment criticizing my opinion without stating or supporting a counterargument of your own, I assumed you were trolling and began treating you accordingly.

                  Have a day.

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                    You yourself admitted that you claimed bs and edited the comment after I criticized you, but yeah I didn’t “support a counterargument.” /s 🙄