• Zoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 days ago

    One more question because this is honestly baffling to me: Is gnocchi also noodles in the US? How about ravioli? And what about pierogi and other dumplings?

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      10 days ago

      None of those are noodles. And to be fair, I thought the part you were objecting to was “sheet” not “noodle”. I guess I was skimming too fast. I agree lasagna sheets are not noodles!

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      10 days ago

      Gnocchi I wouldn’t personally call a noodle but if someone did I wouldn’t call them out on it. Hell, I probably wouldn’t even notice.

      Ravioli is definitely a noodle. Not the stuff inside, though.

      Pierogi is a similar story to ravioli, even if it feels less "noodle"y to me.

      Other dumplings it depends. Chicken & dumplings’ dumplings for example definitely aren’t, as that’s usually leavened (and even when the aren’t they’re still quite bread-like). Bao isn’t for similar reasons. Gyoza if steamed/boiled is again like ravioli, and I’d still describe it that way if pan-fried but only because of it’s resemblance to boiling it.

      Point is, the american english definition of noodle, or at least how I use it as an american, is boiled, unleavened dough. When you see americans refer to some food as a noodle it’s more often a textural distinction, not a shape one (even if most would consider noodles to have a canonical shape, which is why the OP feels the need to clarify sheets).

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          9 days ago

          Tbf, this is probably regional. I’m in the Midwest and noodle has always been limited to long string like pasta. Everything else is pasta.