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Donald Trump suggested Canada could become the U.S.’s “51st state,” claiming it would benefit Canadians through lower taxes and military protection.

The remark follows tensions over Trump’s proposed 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, which shocked Canadian leaders, including Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who likened it to betrayal.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dismissed the annexation talk as unserious but unveiled a $1 billion border security plan to address U.S. concerns.

The escalating rhetoric, including insults from Trump ally Elon Musk, highlights strained Canada-U.S. relations ahead of Trump’s second term.

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    I don’t care if its a joke. Jokes about countries not being real, being artificial, questioning sovereignty. all of that became completely unfunny after Feb 24 2022

    the dichotimy of the US and Canada, is eerily similar to that of Russia and Ukraine.

    Neighbors, Cultural ties, History of imperialism attempted or otherwise, Tinpot expansionist ambitions for no better reason than Russkiy Mir / Manifest Destiny / DURR LINES ON MAPS BIGGER.

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      I remember when Trump joked about running for president. He also joked about sexually assaulting women. Then he joked about supporting white supremacists, undermining democracy, etc. Every Trump joke is a probe to see if his supporters will back him.

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      So what are we going to do about it? Nukes?

      If he actually had left NATO the problem would have solved itself, but he’s gone back on that. As it is he could just kind of take the country.

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        Honestly, at this point, Canada should seriously consider a domestic nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American. I apologize for our dysfunction.

        I really don’t see Trump actually trying anything, but a few more administrations of political decay? It could very well happen.

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        I dont know what we will do, but I know the answer isn’t to just accept it and deal with it, like those foaming at the mouth screaming at Ukraine to just “sign a peace deal” when the terms of that issue is their country permanentley losing its sovereignty. You can’t just roll over and take it. The Nukes thing is effectively a nonstarter here, as it is in Ukraine, because Nuclear proliferation is basically treated as an act of war by the UN sec council . In the view of the nuclear armed, No one is allowed to have Nuclear weapons but them, The days of countries starting nuclear programs and not getting bombed for it are long gone.

        If such a thing was to happen, and the US Military didn’t take care of the problem by coup’ing their obviously rogue administration, attacking its own allies. Then I suppose I’ll be a statistic in the insurgency. I have no intention of living as a third class non-citizen in my own home to a foreign power and the traitors who invited them. I dont care if it’s Chinese, Russian, or American.

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    I can’t wait for a future where Trump doesn’t exist. How much longer do we have to tolerate this shit?

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      I can’t wait for a future where the US has fixed its problems. Trump is just a symptom of a deeper issue within the US and when Trump is gone someone else will take his place and it’ll probably get worse.

  • ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.ca
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    Listening to Trump is sooo incredibly exhausting. I can’t do things for another four years+. My body just can’t handle it.

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    Ignore what he says. This is all distraction and engagement/attention capital. Only what he does matters. Come on people, this isn’t our first Trump presidency. We know how he operates.

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      I would argue that the world has been a very different place in 2024/2025 than it was the last time around, if for no other reason than we are effectivley 2 or 3 years into an already started Third World War.

      (people just dont want to admit it yet because there aren’t nukes flying or major advesaries directley engaged with each other yet… and thats what they associate WW3 with. but make no mistake, we’re there. It’s started, for a while now. We’re basically in the Spanish Civil War / Japanese Invasion of China stages. )

      My point here is not to fearmonger but just to say, the world is multitudes more dangerous and inflamed than it ever was at any point between the first trump administration. its a dangerous, **dangerous **fucking time to have a senile geriatric manchild-troll in the whitehouse.

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      Right. He dominates every news cycle saying like five unhinged things every day and people tune out after a while, and then they ignore what’s happening when he actually does something unhinged.

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    Been awhile since the Canadians burnt down the white house. USA might need another spanking to remind them about how this went last time.

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        The version of the war of 1812 taught in the states is odd. Mostly focuses on the battle of New Orleans. The USA started the war as an attempt to invade and annex the Canadian British colonies in the east, and the war went so poorly they ended up (successfully, but still) defending Louisiana. Basically, if Napoleon hadn’t started doing Napoleon things, the USA may well have become British again,

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          I mean, is it too late for us to rethink that whole independence thing? Well, considering the state of UK politics, I don’t know if we want to join up with them. They’re just as bad as we are.

          How about Ireland? Can we just surrender to Ireland and let them annex us? I imagine, considering their history, that they would be pretty benevolent as far as colonial masters go.

          We could even issue a Declaration of Dependence

          “We are now your problem.”

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            Man, I’ve been to all these places, one in particular for years at a time. They’re nice, but everyone has to quit listening to the media and go outside. The states are straight up better off in all measures than Canada, Ireland, the UK, France, everywhere. All you gotta do is man up, figure out how to pay for health insurance yourselves, and take advantage of all the opportunity around you the other countries lack, and the much lighter tax bills. Or, yknow, just sit on here or reddit all day and bitch.

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          Barney’s 300 sailors and 103 Marines nevertheless held off the British frontal attacks, launching counter-attacks armed with hand pikes and cutlasses, with cries of “Board’em! Board’em!”

          This is hilarious 😂

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      Canadian cucks cheering for the idea of “Joining as a state/states” don’t realize Canada’s future would essentially be that of Puerto Rico for decades, Second class citizens, if we could even call them that, full rights and protections wouldnt apply. and thered also be a complete devastation of the land and infrastructure to boot as one nation tries to forcefully assimilate another.

      Surrender your Sovereignty and have no representation to own the libs. YEA 'BERTA

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        Nah, I say we don’t conquer Canada so much as just become a Canadian unincorporated territory without the consent of the Canadian parliament.

        We could come together and issue a grand historic Declaration of Dependence.

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    I don’t think he realises how opposed Canadians are to this idea. Trudeau has been keeping quiet about this because they don’t want to feed the troll. Meanwhile this orange moron thinks this means we’re on board with this idea.

    Canada might not be as wealthy as the US and might be in a housing crisis, but we still see the US as a dystopia for anyone who isn’t the richest 5%.

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      How about just Oregon and Washington? I promise, we’re cool. Can we just join Canada? I’m willing to learn to like hockey if that will make a difference.

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      I don’t think you’ve ever been west (or south for that matter, the USA is only a dystopia on TV) of Ontario, nobody much gives a shit either way. Eastern Bastards or Yankee bastards, same difference.

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      He does not give one shit what Canadians or anyone else thinks of this “idea.” It’s not even a fully formed thought, it’s just something he said while he was confused, and he covered by acting like he was making a suggestion. The guy has dementia, and he’s surrounded by sycophants.

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        Until he’s dead, in jail or in a retirement home for senile people I will not dismiss the threat that he represents. He keeps talking about it and started to refer to Canada as “the State of Canada” without realizing how hostile and insulting this comes across as. He’s really thinking he can pull it off and this is scary. This motherfucker is going to use the crippling tariffs as leverage against Canada.

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            IKR? The real point is he fucking hates Trudeau, and has been saying that openly for years now. This is just another way to needle him.

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          This motherfucker is going to use the crippling tariffs as leverage against Canada.

          Using tariffs as a weapon is gonna be so effective. It’s like a mugger pointing the gun at himself and demanding your money.

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            The problem is that it is more like being mugged by someone with a claymore mine strapped to his chest and who is dumb enough to believe he won’t get hurt if he detonates it.

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            That’s a really great analogy. lol “This is going to be really mentally scarring for you, and the stains will never come out of your clothes, you know…”

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      The few Canada adjacent people in his ear are telling him Canadians are all miserable and repressed in a woke-communist dictatorship.

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        You mean just like people around Putin told him that Ukrainians wanted to be liberated from Nazis?

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      Trudeau has been keeping quiet about this because

      because OF COURSE.

      Let the child blather on and look foolish. It’s funny talking points for the russian bots and their Edmonton bankroll.

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        But he hasn’t, You’ve just not been listening, Trudeau started acting like a 12 year old girl over this, went and cried in public that Harris should have won, this was such a setback to the progressive agenda and the USA and the blah blah blah, but he didn’t do this after Trump won, he did this after Trump started teasing him. (Then he claimed to be a feminist and turned around fired his female finance minister, that he had left at home when he went to florida to talk finance with Trump, another brilliant idea by the narcissist, should have sent the foreign affairs minister and stayed home himself.)

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      Oh I hope you 1812 us and take NY for your trouble. He’s being a fucking prick, trying to pick a fight to get trade partners on the defensive and rile up any american left with a soul. He always needs an enemy for his base. Hopefully at least this pisses off the ottawa trucker people?

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        Scene: Canadian armies are moving down into Oregon and Washington

        Everyone in OR and WA: “no, please, don’t conquer us, anything but that! Oh hey, what do you know, we all seemed to have forgotten where we put all our guns. Guess we’re defenseless. Oh well.”

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            They never claimed to be patriots, they weren’t there because they love this country, they were their because they hate this government. They might like the people and the land, but the government is the country, really, and it’s nothing to be proud of anymore.

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    In a perfect world, the president of the United States and the dumbest person on the planet would be different people.

    We do not live in a perfect world.

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      Sometime sit’s really obvious when someone doesn’t know much about Canada. Americans that move here get irritated and leave within a year, 7 time outta ten.

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      prefer the US become Canada’s 11th province

      Whoa whoa; not all of it. Let the adjacent regions ask to be a province and we’ll see how ‘good’ a ‘fit’ they are. I mean, Cascadia will be a good fit, MAYBE some of their adjacents. East coast is hit-and-miss, but largely hit. The middle, though. Yeesh. Probation for sure.

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        Washington (or at least Seattle) seems somewhat compatible with BC. Montana is probably a reasonable match with Alberta and Saskatchewan.
        North Dakota is far too MAGA to fit with the NDP voters in Manitoba.

        Not sure how well the states bordering Ontario would get along with douggie ford’s government.

        I doubt any of Quebec’s southern neighbors would be thrilled about having to learn French.

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        surely you didn’t mention Michigan only because it’s so obvious, right?

        Hell, we’re already used to your currency. (Canadian coins are accepted interchangeably with their US counterparts)

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          Imagine my surprise when the bridge wouldn’t accept my Canadian quarters…

          But yes, the last time I got a roll of quarriers from the bank, at least a dollar of it was Canadian.

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            I get unreasonably indignant when a person or machine won’t accept my Canadian coins. It’s totally fair since it’s “foreign currency”, but … C’mon. Not accepting Canadian quarters is just petty.

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        I’ll put a fancy old person and a loon on some coins for better healthcare.

        At this point, a functioning democracy with a symbolic regent is a hell of a lot more grounded than a broken democracy trying to find its way to something a little more autocratic.

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        I’m against a return to the crown

        You can opt out, it’s all good. But, book the u-haul early.