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  • Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz
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    4 hours ago

    Implying that there could be nazis who don’t really support white supremacist values, but are a part of the movement due to peer pressure or something?

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      There’s a lot of gaslighting lately to try and come across as more palatable to the mainstream audience with people saying stuff like it’s not a Nazi salute or people are too sensitive these days when it inappropriate comments.

      So there’s people who gaslight others, and some who are gaslighting themselves into trying to convince themselves there is nothing wrong with the people and ideologies they support. Which isn’t rare and often seen when it comes to support of celebrities who’ve been accused of bad things as an example.

      There’s also people who know they would not be accepted by Nazis because of their background, but still share a lot of the same discriminatory beliefs leading to some degree of fondness.

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      I think as we move forward in time the line between ‘Nazi’ and ‘supporter of the Nazi party’ and ‘collaborator with nazis’ becomes blurred. When looking at ww2 and the time when the Nazi party ruled in Germany, we don’t make that kind of distinction in general.

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        Yeah definitely in a WW2 Germany there were plenty of people who just decided to go with the flow. I think that most people who nowadays get labeled nazis are mostly hard core racists. The number of passive supporters and collaborators is probably rather small by comparison.